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Web 2.0 Suicide Machine - Meet your Real Neighbours again! - Sign out forever!

Seeded on Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:24 AM EST
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excerpt:"Faster, Safer, Smarter, Better
Tired of your Social Network?

Liberate your newbie friends with a Web2.0 suicide! This machine lets you delete all your energy sucking social-networking profiles, kill your fake virtual friends, and completely do away with your Web2.0 alterego. The machine is just a metaphor for the website which moddr— is hosting; the belly of the beast where the web2.0 suicide scripts are maintained. Our services currently runs with Facebook, Myspace, Twitter and LinkedIn! Commit NOW!

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Scott (Scoop) Butki

This is genius - I just emailed the creator to request an interview

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Reply#1 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:25 AM EST
Truth Hurts-840829

LOL

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Reply#2 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:51 AM EST
Scott (Scoop) Butki

email interview under way - submit any question suggestions fast.

    Reply#3 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:03 PM EST
    Truth Hurts-840829

    can we choose method of death?

    will the social network commiting suicide tell the others in the net work that

    screen name "truth hurts" jumped from a bridge?

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    Reply#4 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:05 PM EST
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    Two - well one two part - question. nice.

    Answers to follow.

      #4.1 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:26 PM EST
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      Scott (Scoop) Butki

      this is what i just emailed one of the creators -

      Here's five to get you started

      i'll do ten to 12ish total

      What sparked this idea? Give me a general chronology - who was involved in creating it, what are your guys back ground? (can I get full names too please)

      What do you make of the response to it? I learned of it since it's the feature item today from the Very Short List group - i'll forward that to you

      How many people have taken this step so far?

      For those, like me, curious about the idea but not ready to do something so drastic can you tell us what happens if you do commit this suicide - does it disable your accounts or is this just more of a mental exercise?

      What's so great about this so-called offline world?

      incidentally I run a group at newsvine called newsvine addicts and you might enjoy these two pieces that toy with similar ideas but with a sense of irony
      26 more signs you're addicted to newsvine

      and My 8-Step Program For Leaving Newsvine To Experience the So-Called "Real Life"

        Reply#5 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:06 PM EST
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        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        Here are his answers

        Hi Scott,

        Here my answers! Let me know if you have any questions!

        Best Wishes
        gordo

        What sparked this idea? Give me a general chronology - who was involved in
        creating it, what are your guys back ground? (can I get full names too
        please)

        We (the guys from moddr.net, Danja Vasiliev, Walter Langelaar and Gordan
        Savicic) organized a Web 2.0 Suicide Night in Worm (a club venue in
        Rotterdam) where the idea was to collectively delete your social network
        profiles. Just grab a drink, fill out some forms and do away with your
        web2.0 alterego. Later, I (Gordan Savicic) started scripting some python
        scripts and automatized the whole process. We, moddr— are experimentalists
        of everyday technology and critical media thinkers with an artistic
        practice. Basically, our lab consists of some very geeky fine-artists.

        What do you make of the response to it? I learned of it since it's the
        feature item today from the Very Short List group - i'll forward that to
        you

        At the moment I am very busy maintaining the server, reading through log
        files and helping people whose 2.0 suicide encountered complications due to
        server lag. The Untwitter feature was actually requested by the users and
        we could implement it within a couple of days. We still get a lot of mails
        of people wishing to have the suicide machine ported to other platforms
        (Hyves, Youtube, Flickr, Orkut, etc.).

        How many people have taken this step so far?

        We had around 700 2.0suiciders so far, which doesn't probably doesn't sound
        much, but this is mostly due to the fact that our server can take only one
        session/platform at the moment. So, basically there were around
        5000requests, but only 700 were lucky in getting a free slot and about
        40.000 friends have been unfriended. At the moment the page is getting more
        and more popular, thus we are currently looking into expanding our server
        resources to offer multiple sessions at the same time.

        For those, like me, curious about the idea but not ready to do something so
        drastic can you tell us what happens if you do commit this suicide - does
        it disable your accounts or is this just more of a mental exercise?

        One of the nicest feature of the web2.0 suicide machine is that you can
        actually watch your 2.0 life passing away in real-time. This happens within
        a flash window in your webbrowser where you can see the machine logging
        into your account, changing password and profile picture, then removing
        friend by friend and leaving all the groups you were member of. So, you
        find a spot on your couch, grab a drink a have fun while you are at it.
        Watch the video to find out more: http://vimeo.com/8223187

        What's so great about this so-called offline world?

        The suicide machine is of course a radical solution for the by now popular
        term “unfriending”, which became Oxford word of the year 2009. I
        actually noticed that I spent lots of time reading news feeds from people I
        didn't know so well and sometimes I've been procrastinating on Facebook for
        hours. Since I got rid of my Facebook account, I feel much more eased about
        social interaction and got a lot more productive in front of my computer.
        However, I am not blaming social networks for disconnecting people. There
        are for sure good aspects in staying connecting with friends and family
        living abroad using Facebook & Co., but (most of the) people are not fully
        aware of the privacy-tradeoffs. Those services will hold your collected
        information forever on their servers and use the acquired data for targeted
        marketing analysis. Seamless connectivity and rich social experience
        offered by web2.0 companies are the very antithesis of human freedom. Users
        are entrapped in a high resolution panoptic prison without walls,
        accessible from anywhere in the world. We do have an healthy amount of
        paranoia to think that everyone should have the right to quit her 2.0-ified
        life by the help of automatized machines. Therefore, we hope that by
        removing your contact details and friend connections your data is being
        cached out from their backup servers. This can happen after days, weeks,
        months or even years.

          Reply#7 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:45 PM EST
          Scott (Scoop) Butki

          My response

          I love the fact you can watch your own suicide - that's almost as good as being able to attend your own funeral.

          OK five more questions and then, if it's ok, i'll publish this tomorrow as an interview
          1) When did this project begin offering this service?
          2) Should I call you guys the Dr. Kevorkians of Social Media?
          3) What if someone changes their mind at the last minute? Is there an undo feature?
          4) Have you guys gotten any feedback from the groups they're dying from, i.e. facebook or twitter?

          5) Question from a guy at newsvine, where I posted this news
          can we choose method of death? will the social network commiting suicide tell the others in the net work that screen name "truth hurts" jumped from a bridge?

            Reply#8 - Wed Dec 30, 2009 4:47 PM EST
            Scott (Scoop) Butki

            When did this project begin offering this service? ]
            We officially launched on 19th of December 2009, right before Christmas.

            Should I call you guys the Dr. Kevorkians of Social Media?
            No problem!

            What if someone changes their mind at the last minute? Is there an undo
            feature?
            No, however there's one trade-off with Facebook users which can reset their
            password, but very few take advantage of it. Our FAQs explain it very
            frankly:

            If I start killing my 2.0-self, can I stop the process?
            No!

            If I start killing my 2.0-self, can YOU stop the process?
            No!

            4) Have you guys gotten any feedback from the groups they're dying from,
            i.e. facebook or twitter?
            Ironically, this project has been heavily discussed on Facebook Groups and
            Twitter. We haven't expected such a huge amount of requests in the first
            week since launch. We do receive emails from 2.0 suiciders with messages
            like „thank you, what you've started is great." or „please do suicide
            machine for vkontakte(http://vkontakte.ru)-it`s russian web-site like
            facebook! we really need suicide machine for this one!!!".

            5) Question from a guy at newsvine, where I posted this news
            http://sbutki.newsvine.com/_news/2009/12/30/3696959-web-20-suicide-machine-meet-your-real-neighbours-again-sign-out-forever
            can we choose method of death? will the social network commiting suicide
            tell the others in the net work that screen name "truth hurts" jumped from
            a bridge?

            There are no parameters in your „killing" proccess. In this sense it's
            very binary. There's no way back ;)

            @2nd question: Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to send a message to all
            Facebook friends due to recent security policies implemented by facebook.
            We tried to implement that feature but couldn't put it together before our
            official launch. However, 2.0 suiciders leave a last message on their wall,
            saying that they committed suicide using the www.suicidemachine.org.
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              Reply#9 - Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:17 AM EST
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              My interview will be published in the morning.

                Reply#10 - Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:17 AM EST
                Scott (Scoop) Butki

                Here is the interview

                  #10.1 - Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:33 PM EST
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