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How Would You Describe Your Relationship With Music And How Has It Changed Over Time?

Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:21 AM EDT
entertainment, sbutki-memoir
By Scott (Scoop) Butki

a friend of mine playing bluesfest in hagerstown

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Apologies for the long headline but I wanted to get the full question on there. This is the latest in my Friday Frivolity piece. Earlier pieces were about crazy jobs, summer reading and one or two others

A few months before moving from Maryland to Austin I wrote this piece attempting to sum up what I call my own dysfunctional relationship with music, namely that I love to listen music, especially live in close settings, but I have no actual musical abilities myself. Which is funny considering I was in middle school orchestra and high school band.

I felt something changing in recent weeks, though, which is what sparked this piece and open question. It used to be that I felt a need to have music going all the time, be it electronica and punk in college or what was then called alternative music in high school. This was also when I began to realize that I have a hard time writing about music. Seriously, I'd like to see you write a preview of a concert by the Meat Puppets where you can make sense of their lyrics.

Around the time I left journalism for education I began to see the value of silence and realize I could think better and more clearly when there was minimal music. Around the same time I began to listen to albums sent to me by Putumayo Records about different cultures and realized I could learn by listening to these albums. But I was noticing a general trend of spending less and less time listening to music outside of on the car stereo.

Which brings me to the stealing of my car stereo.

Within a month of my arrival in Austin my car stereo was stolen. Right while I was parked in a library parking lot and a day after NPR ran a story saying, essentially, nobody steals car stereo anymore. I wrote a response to NPR and submitted it as a letter but they didn't report it so the poor car thief will never know how out of style he or she is. Or, as I posited in the piece, the thief was just confused by my bumper sticker suggesting "voluntary simplicity." It's amazing how much adding the prefix "in" to voluntary changes its meaning, isn't it? I asked these questions in a letter i asked NPR to read aloud but they never did, as far as I know (while I love NPR I don't listen to it as much since I'm sitll without a car stereo)

So there I have been, with boxes and boxes of cds which are, in fact, still in boxes. Many are cds I'd normally only listen to in a car stereo. And at home I prefer silence or watching something from netflix to listening to music.

I have just been, generally, without really planning to, taking a fast from music. This is a far cry from days when I'd organize cds by artists....or the summer I even listened, in order, to every cd i owned (more than 300) to see if I can
regain what had, in some cases, been lost, namely appreciation for certain artists.

Plus when I left Maryland I was going to free live music three or four nights a week, often at a favorite coffeeshop
(which is partly inspired my current series of reviews searching for a new favorite coffeeshop in Austin). It was at that Hagerstown, Md, coffeeshop where I was caught once when being quite shy. - yes, i really am more likely to be speechless in person than online... until I get to trust you.

Put simply I used to listen to music a lot but lately it was rare for me to hear a full song let alone a full album when in an environment that I controlled.

But that changed within the last month. First I felt the urge to get some music to listen to at home while I write.. then I started a new job that lets me listen to music while I work.

Both changes happening at the same time, perhaps feeding off each other, made me reflect on the changes in my relationship with music and wonder if others have also noticed changes in their own relationship with music.

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Scott (Scoop) Butki

On a lighter note, the listening to music while at work reminded me of my typing class story which I wrote about for
Wednesday.
This piece is the third of three music-related stories I wrote this week. The first was the one asking what music you are listening to lately.

  • 4 votes
Reply#1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:29 AM EDT
Scott (Scoop) Butki

So... how would you answer this headline's question?

  • 1 vote
Reply#2 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:30 AM EDT
Spikegary

I was raised in a household where music was an integral part of life. My mom sang in the church choir and in the 'Community Mixed Chorus' in Poughkeepsie, NY. Mom still appears in theater (local) as part of the Gilbert and Sullivan Players-additionally, I think she's played every female role in 'The Sound of Music'.

I actually sang on stage (I think I was 5) in celebration of our church organist's 50 year anniversary with the church. I have always loved music, from the time I was a kid (with 45's-stacks of them-I could buy them at Grant's Department Store for less than a dollar). I still remember two of my favorites-Chick-a-Boom and Hot Rod Lincoln (linked for your listening pleasure).

I was always listening to the new stuff, though I was very disapointed in the late 80's and early 90's (too much 'retreading' of music). I always have music on wherever I am. I kind of found myself listening to 'classic rock' all the time by default-a friend mentioned to my son the 'stick in the mud' listening habits I had. I realized I was sick of U2, Led Zepplin, ZZ Top, etc., which they played virtually non-stop.

About this time (early 21st century) the station I listened to lowered their power output, so I looked around and started listening to HTZ-FM out of St. Catherines Ontario, Canada (again, linked for your listening pleasure). Mostly new rock and some very interesting 'discoveries' (One of the reasons they have been selected as Canada's Radio Station of the year for many years running).

They play a lot of stuff before it really 'hits' in the states-groups like 'Cage the Elephant'. They also play great Canadian Bands that don't have the fiollowing here in the states they deserve ('The Tragically Hip' comes to mind) and of course, Rush (from right up the road in Toronto). They also have, every year or two, Rock Search-where they compare and contrast and select a rock band for a recording contract and a bunch of other prizes to get them on the music map, so to speak. One of those winners was a group, believe it or not, known as 'The Rainbow Butt Monkies'. You now know them as 'Finger 11'.

A few months back, I started trying to come up with a list and links of stuff I enjoyed and I have been publishing it (almost) monthly since then. I'm halfway through building the list for August. I ALWAYS have music on near me. So, I've progressed and have found myself liking the new stuff, leaving the old stuff for once in a while.

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 9:03 AM EDT
DragonWoman

Spike You and I are practically the same age... I remember when 45's were $.88 each.

I am in Schenectady, NY.

Some of the 80's was ok... but I was still a 70's child at heart.

I did get into Grunge of the 90's... but the boy bands irritated the crippled crap out of me... phoney

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:51 PM EDT
Spikegary

My Mother-in-law lives near you and I have friends at Stratton Air Guard Base.

Never got into grunge-too much angst, too little music. I was there for Meatloaf's beginning-at least when he made it. He appeared at the Poughkeepsie Mid-Hudson Civic Center as a warm-up for a local band named 'Ralph'. Meatloaf stole the show. Circa 1978.

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 9:40 PM EDT
DragonWoman

I liked his earlier stuff... 2 out of 3 aint bad

  • 3 votes
#3.3 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:51 PM EDT
Matt Rock

Sonic Youth is one of my favorite bands, very influential in my own playing and songwriting. I never enjoyed Nirvana much though. When most American kids my age were getting into grunge, I was making British friends and they were turning me onto early 90's british rock (Radiohead, Blur, etc.), so much of the grunge movement went over my head, hehe.

    #3.4 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 2:12 AM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    sonic youth are amazing.

    • 2 votes
    #3.5 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 10:38 AM EDT
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    tracey-602481

    Dog help me, but I've turned into my parents where music is concerned. I listen to the music I grew up with and yell "turn that s*** down" at my kids. I grew up in the late 70s/early-mid 80s, so my taste is a bit bizarre. From the old dope smoking hippy music to the new wave 80s pop, throw in a bit of old school country and southern rock with a bit of hair band heavy metal, and we're there.

    • 4 votes
    Reply#4 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 9:52 AM EDT
    Matt Rock

    I've been doing that recently too! I was a teenager through most of the 1990's. As soon as this decade started, I found it harder and harder to enjoy modern music. Modern R&B isn't actually R&B, every single modern metal band sounds exactly the same to me, and if Green Day jumped in a time machine and traveled back to CBGB's in the 1970's, announcing themselves as a punk band, Sid Vicious and Glenn Danzig would have most likely decapitated them just so they could laugh at their $300 haircuts.

    Not to say there aren't some things I like in modern music. It's difficult, but I've been hunting for new bands that are enjoyable, with mixed results. I like Vampire Weekend, though I'm angry they covered a Radiohead song I like. TV on the Radio is too unique and "out there" for me not to love. And there's a band in Britain called Keane that's just starting to come State-side that I moderately enjoy as well. I just wish I didn't have to work to find music to like, hehe.

      #4.1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:16 AM EDT
      Scott (Scoop) Butki

      e machine and traveled back to CBGB's in the 1970's, announcing themselves as a punk band, Sid Vicious and Glenn Danzig would have most likely decapitated them just so they could laugh at their $300 haircuts.

      ha! too true and well said (though i'm not sure danzig was around back then) - this piece is a good reminder./look back at the 70s and 80s punk movement.

      matt, you might want to swing by here to get some album recommendations.
      also, friend request sent your way

      • 1 vote
      #4.2 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 10:44 AM EDT
      Matt Rock

      Danzig was the frontman for the Misfits a long time ago ;)

        #4.3 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 7:28 PM EDT
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        Matt Rock

        As a youth, my parents had an ongoing war to influence me, my brother, and my sister with their musical tastes. My mom was a fan of Motown, funk, classic R&B (from the era when "rhythm" and "blues" actually meant something), and modern pop, and still is today. My dad was a fan of The Beatles (who isn't?) and other rock bands, as well as a long line of people that I've always considered to be poets more than musicians. Between my mom singing Sly & the Family Stone while cleaning and whatnot, and my dad blasting The Stones at family gatherings, and countless members of my extended family being musicians, it's no surprise that the three of us kids all turned out to be musicians.

        I was in my first band at age 12 -- not that we were any good! -- and did my first real "gig" at age 15. Music has always played a central role in about 99% of what I do. Radiohead's OK Computer, Blur's Parklife, The Beastie Boys' Ill Communication, Weezer's Blue Album, Cake's Fashion Nugget, and Sonic Youth's Daydream Nation are amongst the timeless albums that create the soundtrack of my life. I can barely function, alone or socially, without a CD or MP3 playing in the background.

        Today, I'm in the process of forming a new band (finding rehearsal space in Binghamton, NY has proved thus far to be impossible for us, as we're all in our late twenties and live in apartments, but we're soldiering on). I'm in the process of designing an online music magazine with friends, which we hope to launch on the net by December of this year, provided we can find more writers for it. And I've been scouring the internet trying to find "the perfect" drumset for myself, to replace my aging, failing, somewhat-decrepit Ludwig. There was a time when making music had taken a backseat to other ventures, but my love for music has never faded over the years beyond that. If Exit Music [For a Film] isn't played at my funeral, then I was never really loved.

        • 4 votes
        Reply#5 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:07 AM EDT
        Spikegary

        Matt-please keep us advised-if Binghamton is like anywhere else in Upstate New York, there must be some abandoned buldings you could p/u or rent for a song (so to speak). I know in WNY there are lots of empty places.

        • 3 votes
        #5.1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:14 AM EDT
        Matt Rock

        There's a place here called the NYPenn Trade Center that used to rent out individual units for bands to rehearse in, but they've stopped returning people's calls. We're currently looking into possibly renting or even buying one of the older, empty buildings in Binghamton's metro area... our fingers are crossed that we find something before the summer runs out! I don't know why, but getting a serious band together in the winter is impossible, so if we want this project to go someplace, we're starting to run out of time :(

        • 2 votes
        #5.2 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:24 AM EDT
        Spikegary

        Very true, but I don't know about you in Binghamton, but we haven't seen a whole lot of summer this year-we're in the 'dog days' now and it's mid-70s out. Even if you found somehting on the outskirts-even if you could build somehting-a musicians aprtment building....something along those lines. Good luck with it and please keep all of us in the loop!

        • 3 votes
        #5.3 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:41 PM EDT
        DragonWoman

        Good luck Matt.

        • 2 votes
        #5.4 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:53 PM EDT
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        katrix

        Hi Scott!

        I still listen to different types of music, but my favorite is and always was modern hard rock. I can't stand classic rock because the best song in the world gets old after you've heard it 100,000 times. I'm a Sirius Octane fan since the local rock stations play too many commercials, and have stupid DJs and idiots calling in (OK, I've changed in that regard - I used to like certain DJs). So where I used to like Led Zep, I'm now into Avenged Sevenfold, Theory of a Deadman, and other newer bands.

        Oh, and I don't go to as many concerts because I have a hard time getting to work on time the next day, since I'm not a young pup anymore. So far the only ones I've seen this year are the Seldom Scene (bluegrass) and Stone Temple Pilots (who I guess are pretty close to being classic rock at this point). Plus a bunch of local blues/R&B bands when I was in New Orleans this past spring.

        I mostly listen in my car; at home, I agree that silence can be wonderful, especially in the spring and fall when the windows are open and I can hear birds and insects. I'm trying to get in the habit of putting Octane on when I get home from work, though, because it often gets me off my butt and onto the elliptical trainer. Avenged Sevenfold is a great fast-paced band for me to work out to.

        • 1 vote
        Reply#6 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:31 AM EDT
        Naftel

        So where I used to like Led Zep, I'm now into Avenged Sevenfold, Theory of a Deadman, and other newer bands.

        I'm right there with you. I can't stay in the past where music is concerned. I still like some of the old bands, but, for whatever reason, as I have gotten older, I really enjoy the new young modern "punk" bands like Rise Against, Brand New and the aforementioned Avenged Sevenfold. I am probably twice as old as their average listener, but as other genres of music come and go, good hard rock will always live on.

        • 1 vote
        #6.1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:05 PM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        hi katrix! great to "see" you

        still rocking to the hard stuff - good for you! One of these days you should make me a cd of songs
        to try to convert me into a fan of some of your stuff

        Did you see my piece about doing a slide show for a friend's band? it was a cool yet surreal experience
        and thus typical of my odd life
        (post link to slide show) - the band then played the roller derby I attended last Sunday.

        • 2 votes
        #6.2 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 10:53 AM EDT
        CL1

        Interesting Katrix, I'll have to check out Avenged Sevenfold for faced-paced needs.

        Well, Scott, all that I can say for a relationship with music is that I am extremely adaptable - I love all kinds - whatever feeds the mood at the moment. Music changes everything - our minds, bodies and spirit.

        How has it changed - pretty simply, I go with the flow ... no heavy metal, tho.

        • 1 vote
        #6.3 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:26 AM EST
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        the only metal i listen to regularly consists of people dragging garbage cans around the parking lot:)

          #6.4 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 8:15 AM EST
          Arad

          the only metal i listen to regularly consists of people dragging garbage cans around the parking lot:)

          I listen to heavy metal. By heavy metal, I of course mean the train that goes on the track a half mile from my apartment at 11:00 at night.

          • 2 votes
          #6.5 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 10:35 AM EST
          CL1

          You guys are funny. Come to think of it, I listen to it too, and didn't know it!

          • 1 vote
          #6.6 - Wed Dec 2, 2009 12:11 PM EST
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          jbird

          I dont buy much music. I'd rather not support the hypocrites who supported the industry's ban on sharing. I'm talking the same hypocrites that used to copy cassettes before becoming famous, and they KNOW this.

          • 1 vote
          Reply#7 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 11:02 AM EDT
          katrix

          Why wouldn't they want to ban sharing? It's one thing to copy a cassette for personal use - I used to do that so I could listen to an album in my car. But I didn't copy cassettes and give them to other people so they could get the music for free. Making songs that I bought available on my PC so that anyone could grab them for free isn't ethical.

          What pisses me off is nowadays if you buy a song through downloading and they limit the media you can use to listen to it - if I buy a song it shouldn't matter whether I want to play it on an MP3 player, on my PC, or wherever. Also that the artists don't get much of the money when I buy music, but I digress.

          • 1 vote
          #7.1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:06 PM EDT
          Spikegary

          jbird-a bit off topic?

          • 2 votes
          #7.2 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:44 PM EDT
          jbird

          No non purchasing IS my current relationship. Very much on topic.

            #7.3 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 2:38 PM EDT
            jbird

            katrix

            I agree. I have old Itunes that I was told I wouldnt be able to play on my relatively new Voyager smart phone. Havent tried yet.

              #7.4 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 2:40 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              jbird is on topic (and a soap box).

              Is music therapy and love or...

              is it a money making proposition..... scheme...

              I think when musicians sell out for bucks the quality dies. Putting out an album with one good song and a bunch of fill in is part for the course... not even a novel idea. Mutt Lange is good for this... as well as Simon Cowell.

              The idea is create a bunch of albums at 20 bucks a pop.... now it is down loads... and how many time is a song re-mixed? And look who is putting out music..... "Reality" stars like Paris Hilton and Heidi Montage and actresses like Lidsey Lohan.... I call that noise polution.

              • 2 votes
              #7.5 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 6:00 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              " I think when musicians sell out for bucks the quality dies. Putting out an album with one good song and a bunch of fill in is part for the course... not even a novel idea. Mutt Lange is good for this... as well as Simon Cowell. "

              ah, you reminded me of an old piece - greatest hits or compilations for these bands?

              • 3 votes
              #7.6 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 11:03 AM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              "who supported the industry's ban on sharing. I'm talking the same hypocrites that used to copy cassettes before becom" or hypocrisy accusations.
              but i have to tell you i'm not crazy about generalizations, as in all musicians think this way or that way.

              Some benefit from online sharing (lawrence lessig talked about that in his great book about which
              I interviewed him here) while others don't as much.

              to me protesting the position of the record companies by not buying cds is a bit like boycotting
              all movies because you don't like the movie rating systems - not really hurting anyone
              except maybe depriving you of some personal pleasures. but different strokes...

              • 2 votes
              #7.7 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 11:05 AM EDT
              DragonWoman

              Sorry I did not see that other article sooner.... I put one out about great albums as well with the same theme, somewhat... I am sick of the one song on an album... so it grows dust, you have to mix cd's or compile on music software... and thus the invention of the MP3 player and Ipod..... ahhhh necessity is the mother of invention.

              • 3 votes
              #7.8 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              no sweat - feel free to link to your piece.

              tomorrow i'm going back to vote for all the comments in this piece. i'm short on computer today and the last few days.

              • 3 votes
              #7.9 - Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:15 PM EDT
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              Samoore4

              Hi, I grew up in the late '60's & early '70's, having a sister who is 13 years older than me I listened to some golden oldies, of course all the wonderful 60's music, still a die hard Rolling Stones fan..I like the old Motown & Philly Soul, some of the newer stuff is okay and has found it's way onto my iPod...I also like The Tragically Hip & Blue Rodeo out of Canada (husband is Canadian & turned me onto it)...throw some classical in there & that's about it.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#8 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 11:10 AM EDT
              Kshark

              Music is my therapy. Seriously. It can help with any mood I am in, lift me up when down, mellow me out when hyper, it can elicit sadness. It does so much for me I cannot be without it.

              I am one of those people that can watch something on TV and hear the music behind the movie or show or whatever. So many people I know don't pay any attention then when I play a song for them they ask where did I hear that I say from such and such. They don't remember.

              I listen to nearly anything, excluding most country, most hiphop/rap and heavy metal. Can't really take any of that too much.

              But everything I will listen to otherwise at least once. My tastes haven't changed as I span over all categories to hear the different voices, beats, lyrics.

              But all in all music is in a way my therapeutic entity.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#9 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:06 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              "Music is my therapy. Seriously. It can help with any mood I am in, lift me up when down, mellow me out when hyper, it can elicit sadness. It does so much for me I cannot be without it."

              i'm with you there. I even used a song, "jagged," by old 97s to sum up orally and in this piece on how

              i'm feeling on weekends
              like this where i'm filed with anxiety
              (link to jagged) and sometimes I can battle angst by listening to songs that are disturbing and full
              of angst like som
              e of these tunes.

              I am one of those people that can watch something on TV and hear the music behind the movie or show or whatever. So many people I kn

              I know totally what you mean.I was thrown for a loop this week when right after writing a mini
              review of a new order album reissue (here) I started noticing a new order song played in a
              tv commercial and wondered about the odds of that happening..

              • 3 votes
              #9.1 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 11:11 AM EDT
              Reply
              Furious George

              In one word diverse.

              In many words. Any music that I feel that can have a influence on my appreciation for it. If it has a universal affect, IMO I believe the artist has done its job. I don't much appreciate cookie cutter, commercialized nonsense you hear now. I have just about every genre of music in my collection. You name I probably have it.

              My relationship with music is ever changing but I grow to appreciate it more and more. I wake up to it, work out to it, I listen to it at work, in my car, in the shower, and go to sleep listening to it. My children are learning to be musicians, I can't play a lick but I try to provide the same influence and appreciation I have for music to them.

              The best way to describe my relationship with music is if my life had a soundtrack ha! What would it sound like. Mine would be so diverse I don't think anyone would buy it but me. I guess my relationship is unique, but so is everyone else. My relationship has changed only by expanding and growing larger. I am always looking to hear the next great song and adding it to my collection.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#10 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 12:13 PM EDT
              Greg-281912

              I've discovered new music when my life has taken different turns. and vice versa.

              I'm not sure if the new music led to the life change, or if the life change led me to new music. Right now, I am looking for "new" music, because I sure could use a change of scenery in life in general, and music has inspired me to seek new directions in the past.

              Does anyone know of anything "new" that perhaps most of us haven't even heard yet?

              • 1 vote
              Reply#11 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              - "Does anyone know of anything "new" that perhaps most of us haven't even heard yet? "
              yes:)

              but seriously it depends on your interests.
              I, and others here, can point you toward bands you may like. Try one of these two pieces for
              starters

              "'m not sure if the new music led to the life change, or if the life change led me to new music."

              Great truism

              • 3 votes
              #11.1 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 11:41 AM EDT
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              worldknightboy

              I missed that developmental stage where music soothed and facilitated rite of passage in the adolescent years- long story for another day. However, around age 20 I started to lift weights alot, and started getting into loud, powerful music as a sort of driving force keeping me pumping away and motivated. Probably the last 3 years I listen to music now to lift my spirit, and help me cry and grieve. Its ...its.... luminous expansion while self-disintigrating, in a flow towards higher being......

              • 4 votes
              Reply#12 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 4:29 PM EDT
              Naftel

              WKB... Have you ever listened to Skillet? Profound and powerful Christian rock... If you have never heard of them you might want to check them out.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHzIJEesUPI

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nua-i06Vsok&feature=related

              They also do more traditional Christian music:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-KrIK0s1AQ&feature=related

              • 4 votes
              #12.1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:14 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              I liked Creed when they first came out.. their first 3 albums

              • 5 votes
              #12.2 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 6:03 PM EDT
              worldknightboy

              Thanks, Naftel. The first two I couldn't handle well, but the third one was great! I'll definitely check them out! I appreciate your helping me this way. :-)

              • 3 votes
              #12.3 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 7:03 PM EDT
              Naftel

              The first two I couldn't handle well, but the third one was great!

              Yeah... they are somewhat of a split-personality band as far as music style goes. I love the hard stuff, but I can see why others don't. It's definitely not for everyone. This is one of my favorites that splits the difference, great sound without the harshness:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxtW9TvNZlI

              I think you would like this CD as it is in line with the third song from the post above:

              http://www.independentbands.com/cd/skillet/ardentworship.html

              Something different anyway... enjoy.

              • 4 votes
              #12.4 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 7:47 PM EDT
              worldknightboy

              Its just that there was a flashback quality to me, the video with the children being abused- I become very ....I just can't stand children being harmed, and it triggers me. The other video that troubled me kind of gave me an association with self-harm, like what borderline personality-disordered individuals sometimes do to themselves- a bit raw for me. I do like heavy sounds and powerful beats, but not when overlayed with certain things that give me a PTSD-like experience, if you know what I mean! Thanks for these last two- I'll check them out directly! :-)

              • 5 votes
              #12.5 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:03 PM EDT
              Naftel

              Its just that there was a flashback quality to me, the video with the children being abused- I become very ....I just can't stand children being harmed, and it triggers me.

              The definitely pull no punches... but the underlying point is that even in those horrible times, there is still hope. A point which I, admittedly, often loose track of. And as for harming children, there is simply no excuse. I have never laid a finger on my kids and they are among the most respectful and humble children... and that is not what I say, but what is told to me by teachers, relatives, etc... love is much more powerful than anger.

              • 5 votes
              #12.6 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:43 PM EDT
              worldknightboy

              Your kids are truly very fortunate and no doubt very grateful! I, unfortunately, still experience some PTSD-like events from time to time, and kind of fall back into old whisks of paranoia at the oddest and most unpredictable of triggers. Yeah, definitely kids should be raised in love. AMEN!!!

              • 5 votes
              #12.7 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:48 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              I will 2nd that WKB =}

              • 5 votes
              #12.8 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:52 PM EDT
              worldknightboy

              :-)

              • 4 votes
              #12.9 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 10:44 PM EDT
              Jewelibob

              worldknightboy,

              Have you heard of Matisyahu? He's a Hasidic Jew and his band plays mainly reggae. I have 3 of his albums. I hear there's another one due out soon. Here's a clip from Letterman:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxxuSiC4wNw

              Or check out this video:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12qtTuvWQSI

              • 2 votes
              #12.10 - Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:21 AM EDT
              Reply
              DragonWoman

              Hey Scott... great article...

              Music was introduced to me in my cradle (maybe before). Mom would not pick me up when I cried in the crib sometimes ... on purpose. She would leave me and the radio. I don't think she realized how it formed my independance from her. Not to the extent that I learned how to shut everyone out.

              Later I would take my pain to my room and place one of my records (yes 33's) on the turn table. Usually Stevie Wonder, John Denver, Jesus Christ Superstar... when I was moody. ELO, Eagles, Grease, Saun Cassidy, Hellen Redy, Donna Summers when more up.

              The radio was on all the time to catch what I could not afford to buy. I would take the tape recorder and put it up next to the speaker of the radio to try and catch a song. I could memorize every line from that... easily. Unfortunately I may miss part of the song...

              For quite sometime I thought that the first line of American Pie was "from every paper I delivered...Bad news on the door step, I couldn't take one more step. I can't remember if I cried when I read about his widowed bride. but something touched me deep inside, the day, the music died..... "

              I stopped taking music classes in 8th grade. I never could get the notes. I understood Do, Rae, Mi, Fa, So, La, Ti, Do.... but when the notes are put together .. .I am lost. I don't think I understood that may be part of my dyslexia.. I can not read a comic book either. But I would sing in plays and in a courus.... until for the most part the 8th grade... then I abandoned it for something more "stable". I burried myself in mechanical engineering. I sometimes wonder if it was a mistake.

              I feel like I abandoned music, yet it never left me.... it is my connection to humanity and God (ok maybe that is too deep... so be it.)

              Scott... I too have a ridiculous collection of CD's... the rack is 6' high and spins with 4 sets of racks.

              My taste spans.... Rock, blues, R&B, country, pop, jazz, classical, showtunes.......

              I wish I could play music at work, but I work in an office.

              I find it hard to concentrait on Newsvine and music, so I don't listen to it while here. I can block out the TV in the living room, but not music.

              The truth is the TV is on too much. I remember when the house was full of music. I am the daughter of a baby boomer... I grew up on Man a la Mancha, Jesus Christ Superstar, ELO, Barbara Striesand, Stevie Wonder... etc etc. And when the tv was on... at least most of it was musicals.... MGM, etc.

              I even got caught shop lifting $40 worth of 45's when I was 12.... YIKES.

              I either sleep to MSNBC or the R&B digital tv station.

              Music was, is, and always will be a part of me

              • 4 votes
              Reply#13 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 5:46 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              13 - thanks for the compliment. Perhaps I should have clarified i meant listen to music at
              work via headphones... not playing it so others can hear. that can lead to all kinds of other
              problems.

              "find it hard to concentrait on Newsvine and music, so I don't listen to it while here. I can block out the TV in the living room, but not music. "

              perfect example - i used to need to listen to music while reading sites like this but now
              i much prefer silence. where i used to thrive on multi-tasking (see raat's piece) i now prefer
              mono tasking for lack of a better word.

              • 3 votes
              #13.1 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 12:12 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              I can't do the headphones... I am shocked I have gotten away with the Newsvine... that will end in December... =(

              No I have to listen for the phone, and I move around a bit... I would love to play the MP3

              When I help Data Processing... I can tune out, but not as a Computer Operator/ Distribution/ Printer... etc etc

              • 2 votes
              #13.2 - Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:33 PM EDT
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              firsty

              i think music is humanity's most natural art form, with writing a very close second — it's an organic, urgent thing. i think might be one reason why it's so difficult to capture the nature of one with the other.

              but that doesnt mean we cant try!

              one thing i love about your work, scott, is that it inspires so many people to respond in kind. with writing like that, it gets even closer to music — you write, we hum along, and soon everyone is playing some variation of the theme.

              • 6 votes
              Reply#14 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:33 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              14 - "one thing i love about your work, scott, is that it inspires so many people to respond in kind. with writing like that, it gets even closer to music — you write, we"

              thanks. that's a great way of putting it - i hum something offkey to see if it inspires a
              reaction and some days it doesn't but man when it does it becomes a thing of beauty, sort
              of like a linguistic jam session.
              does that make me like a newsvine choir director of sorts? if so that'd be ironic since i have
              little musical ability myself but i can sure spark others to riff or applaud.

              • 3 votes
              #14.1 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 12:15 PM EDT
              Reply
              DaVinci-984257

              First I felt the urge to get some music to listen to at home while I write.. then I started a new job that lets me listen to music while I work.

              Both changes happening at the same time, perhaps feeding off each other, made me reflect on the changes in my relationship with music and wonder if others have also noticed changes in their own relationship with music.

              You'll find that every culture has some form of music. If you go say to an outdoor concert you'll see small children who by instinct start jumping in rhythmic fashion to the music. Things like this don't just happen. Music in its many forms touches something in the human psyche. As the philosopher Nietzsche said, "Without music life would be a mistake." Just as Nietzsche postulated a Will to Power. There must be a Will to Music as well!

              • 5 votes
              Reply#15 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 9:02 PM EDT
              iconoclasm

              I'm pretty sure Gene Simmons said something to the effect that girls aren't loyal to bands past a few years and that if a boy listens to you when he's 14 he'll be bringing his grandchildren to hear your old songs live.

              While it's a gross generalization I'd have to say I wasn't very much into music before being a teenager and haven't absorbed much after. And the stuff I do listen to isn't considered music by some anyway. Oh and I don't listen to KISS I just remember Gene saying that.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#16 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 9:13 PM EDT
              Kshark

              I'm pretty sure Gene Simmons said something to the effect that girls aren't loyal to bands past a few years

              *laughing* Coming from him, yeah right.

              I can say he is certainly wrong.

              • 6 votes
              #16.1 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:59 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              i just love that someone followed a post quoting niezsche with a post quoting gene simmons.
              talk about two people you wouldnt expect to see quoted in the smae conversation!

              • 2 votes
              #16.2 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 4:30 PM EDT
              Reply
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              Wow. I didnt know what to expect as a response to this piece but I sure didnt expect 35 comments. And i dont have the energy right now to respond to all but i'll do that this weekend. I finished this piece this morning and then went to work and, well,
              here's what I just posted at facebook:
              Before lunch we were told our job ends at 5 pm. We'd hoped it would last through Aug 31 but knew this was a possibility. So... if anyone knows of any job openings be it child care or whatever email me asap. I'm still hoping to get a job in the schools when school starts but who knows with this economy. The good news is I have an online job that starts Monday.

              I lined up the online job a month ago on the off chance that this would happen.As mom noted I'm getting pretty good at lining up work. Still crazy to not know what i'm doing after THAT job but at least i'm a step ahead of most of coworkers who dont have anything lined up at all.

              What a crazy stressful day but the day had a happy ending of sorts...

              • 6 votes
              Reply#17 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:09 PM EDT
              worldknightboy

              let me know if I can help you.

              • 4 votes
              #17.1 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 12:28 AM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              know of any austin area job openings?

              • 3 votes
              #17.2 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 8:18 AM EDT
              worldknightboy

              Sorry, no. I actually don't know anyone from that city, neither. How about the school districts? You may be able to get work as some kind of teacher aid, or tutor. Contact their district office, or check out their website. Schools often hire on a conditional or provisional basis, and give employees time to acquire the needed certifications and credentials. Or, how about private schools? They tend to pay less, but its usually easier to get hired.

              • 4 votes
              #17.3 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 10:28 AM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              i've applied to all local districts and plan to do so again later today

              thanks for the suggestions

              • 4 votes
              #17.4 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 2:32 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              Good luck Scott!

              I seem to remember you working with special needs... You should apply there, you are qualified.

              • 4 votes
              #17.5 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:55 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              - oh believe me i have, repeatedly, both through districts, craigs list, etc

              • 2 votes
              #17.6 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 4:31 PM EDT
              Reply
              It's Gretchen!

              college killed music for me.

              I was born to be a musician--my mother was a concert pianist and my first philharmonic attendance came four days after i was born, because i came more quickly than expected. when i go home, the old ladies still love to tell me about dad bouncing me around backstage during mom's performance. they tell me how little i was as she held me in one arm and played with the other.

              i started dancing before i could move and had entire operas memorized before i started school because i'd be coloring in the corner during rehearsals day after day after day while my mom accompanied.

              in the course of my childhood, i had 14 years of ballet, learned seven instruments, took voice lessons for six years and sang in three operas. I can't even remember all the musicals. i was completely clueless when it came to pop culture and music. still am, really, even though scott is trying hard to remedy this

              Some health problems prevented me from my own music career, so i became an elementary music teacher. i had just enough music classes in college to just about kill it for me. i could no longer listen to the radio without analyzing form, instrumentation, etc. I couldn't play for fun anymore because of the physical limitations and I knew too much to enjoy the sounds I made.

              it has changed a bit lately, again thanks to scott. his aforementioned giant cd collection is slowly moving it's way over to my ipod and im discovering things i never knew i'd enjoy.

              also, i now have a Melody of my own, who dances and sings and twirls. She started making up songs at barely a year old and likes to belt it out at church. My other two sing a bit, but she is already much more like me and her Oma.

              • 5 votes
              Reply#18 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 10:35 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              Gretchen... so good to see you... boy I never would have known all of this...

              I hope you learn to love music more and more.

              I know " the grass is always greener" but I would have loved to have grown up in the music industry.... who knows what would have been... oh well.

              We own what we have.

              • 4 votes
              #18.1 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 4:58 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              g, College had the opposite effect on me - it opened my eyes to many other artists, led to some of the best live shows i saw (as well as some of the worst ) and made me aware i could get into most genres.

              • 3 votes
              #18.2 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 7:28 PM EDT
              Reply
              HurricaneDolfan69

              Music was non-existant in my life until I was 11 years old.

              And then one day a new buddy of mine introduced me to FAIR WARNING by Van Halen. It absolutely floored me and in truth, it changed my life. Within a year I had well over 2000 RECORDS and/or CASSETTES and for me, HEAVIER quickly became better. I went from the likes of Van Halen and quickly got into bands like early Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Motorhead and the Scorpions.

              And then in 1983 a friend of mine from out west sent me a bootleg of this band that was unlike anybody else out there. They had a cool freakin' name though, so I gave it a good listen. And what was the album you ask?

              It was the then still unreleased Freshman effort KILL 'EM ALL album by METALLICA.

              It was like I found GOD. I swear, it was like a physical assult on my very SOUL.

              Now here I am at the age of 39 and if anything at all, my taste in music has only gotten HEAVIER with time. My Ring Tone is MOP (Master of Puppets) by Metallica and my two alarms are SOUTH OF HEAVEN by Slayer and CEMETARY GATES by Pantera.

              And on October 1st i'm taking my 13 yo to his first concert. And who is it you ask?

              Metallica of course.

              Metallica was also my oldest boys 1st concert. I took him to Metallica and Godsmack when he was 9 years old. (His favorite band now is Slipknot)

              The truth is, extremely heavy music is like medication for me. I get off on the aggression...the anger and the pain. I go to hard core shows and they let me...just vent. They let me get out all the @!$%# that "society" wont allow me too. And nobody judges...condemns. They accept me for whoever the hell it is I am.

              They don't care.

              For those few hours we can just let go.

              People have never taken Heavy Metal serious. They underestimate the abilities of the musicians and they get to caught up in the "image" of it. So caught up that they don't really look at the music itself. They think all the fans are idiot stoners who will grow out of it. They've been saying for YEARS that Metal would be dead within a year.

              Well, guess what? It's been almost 40 YEARS since the release of what most consider the first true metal album. And that would be Black Sabbath, which was released in 1970.

              And Metal is still here, as strong as ever.

              In the end, music has saved my sanity on more than one occasion. If it was to disappear, there would be a major void in my life.....

              • 5 votes
              Reply#19 - Fri Aug 7, 2009 11:03 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              I did not like heavy metal in the early 80's until AC/DC, Pat Benetar (ok not so much metal), and Metalica floored me.

              I did like Queensrych also..... I am picky about the Metal I like.

              • 2 votes
              #19.1 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:01 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              19.1 - when i used to go to punk shows in so. cal they'd often play metallica which at the
              time confused me (why would they play metal at a punk show) but later i realized that one
              thing many fans had in common was great respect for metallica. btw i'm not a big fan of m
              but i did like the documentary about them - i think it was called some kind of monster - which
              DID take them seriously and i think that's a good thing.

              • 1 vote
              #19.2 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 4:33 PM EDT
              Reply
              Darreth01

              I had a kid looking through my CD collection one day... he said "You know... you're the only person I know that would have "Mettallica (SP) and Marty Robbins in the same case!" *GRIN*

              I grew up with brothers and sisters that were old enough to be my aunts and uncles. I am 39 btw... so I heard a LOT of the late 70's and early 80's stuff. My mom LOVED Charley Pride... and Dad listened to Marty Robbins and Tex Ritter.

              Then when I got to my teen years the "Hair bands" were becoming popular... I used to catch a LOT of flak from some of the kids at school for knowing the words to a LOT of the songs on the local radio station (OLD country at the time).

              I think my FAVORITE style is classic rock and SOUTHERN rock (Esp. Eric Clapton and Greg Allman. However I will listen to PRETTY MUCH anything that someone wants to put on!!!

              • 3 votes
              Reply#20 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 8:32 AM EDT
              DragonWoman

              Yeah I have Metalica... Jill Scott...Kenny Rogers... Nirvana... Joss Stone...Martiana McBride... and Diana Washington in the same collection....

              I love good music

              • 4 votes
              #20.1 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:04 PM EDT
              Kshark

              *laughing* About as all over the place as mine

              Having Guns N' Roses still, grew up with that bad Appetite for Destruction was awesome.

              To Gospel Music

              To some poptart girls, not much

              to Martina McBride, Carrie Underwood,

              to George Clinton and the P-Funk

              to Beastie Boys

              To BB King and John Lee Hooker

              to Broadway music.

              To Enya and Loreena McKennitt and Lisa Gerard

              to movie soundtracks

              to Skid Row, Poison, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, the Rolling Stones

              to African music

              to some r&b

              I'm all over the place. *laughing*

              • 4 votes
              #20.2 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 9:07 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              Yup... my MP3 player is a real mix as well

              • 4 votes
              #20.3 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 9:14 PM EDT
              Jewelibob

              My iPod is all over the place!!! I've got more than a few listed above.

              As a kid there was always so many different kinds of music playing. I grew up on 8-Track & radio. LOL My dad was strictly country, but my mom liked bluegrass, classical,Big Band era, Herb Alpert's Tijuana Brass, Fats Domino. My brother liked Styx & Buddy Holly and my sisters listened to '60's and John Denver. And me??? I listened to it ALL!

              • 2 votes
              #20.4 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:54 PM EDT
              DragonWoman

              Oh I was raised on the 60's and 50's mix too. My mother adores Johnny Mathes...ODG!!!!!

              At my grandparents... The Boston Pops orchestra... easy listening.... not to bad.

              My father's.. country

              • 1 vote
              #20.5 - Fri Aug 14, 2009 9:33 PM EDT
              Reply
              Rixar13

              I grew up tripping on Blotter Acid (LSD) listening to Jimi Hendrix and off the Vietnam. After separating from my first wife and two kids after a bad car accident, started going to school at the University of Maine and I became a roadie for a college band that played Alternative Rock - I Love it. I saw Stone Temple Pilots in Concert in my late 40's and did a little crowd surfing. Went out today to find the Album CORE and I bought it. Bought Temple of the Dog too as my kids took most of my music albums - CD's.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#21 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 5:11 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              21 - ng on Blotter Acid (LSD) listening to Jimi Hendrix and off the Vietnam. After separating from my first wife and two kids after a bad car accident, started going to sch

              ah, that reminds me of a time a student, when i was subbing, asked me if I knew what
              "purple haze" was. a drug reference, i said. this dude and his stoner friends respected
              and liked me ever since and would tell other kids i was cool such that one day i was stopped
              by a group of teens:
              "hey are you the cool sub?"
              I considered the options - no, i'm the uncool one? - and agreed and they bought me a soda.

              • 2 votes
              #21.1 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 4:34 PM EDT
              Reply
              HurricaneDolfan69

              Appetite For Destruction by G-N-R was one of the best albums ever released PERIOD, let alone in the 80's. Every song on that mother f*$^er kicks your ass. They could have been the greatest Rock-N-Roll band that ever hit the stage if Axl wasn't such an @!$%#.

              They had it all. They were some bad ass dudes who lived what they preached. They had the image. They had the danger. And damn could Axl, Izzy & Slash WRITE music. They just freakin' rocked.

              And I prefer the harder music. My Ipod has pretty much nothing but Metal on it. SLAVE TO THE GRIND by Skid Row is probably the softest thing I got. And is Appetite as heavy as most of what I listen to? Nope. Not even close. But that album is pure AGGRESSION. It's pure testosterone. I still listen to it at least once a week.....

              • 3 votes
              Reply#22 - Sat Aug 8, 2009 10:05 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              I saw lots of new faces in here, which is great.

              Feel free to swing by here to introduce yourself

              and come by here if you have any questions about the site as we have mentors standing (or sitting

              by)

              I wrote out last nite responses to the above posts but it's on another computer so i'll post those tonite.

              • 2 votes
              Reply#23 - Sun Aug 9, 2009 9:19 AM EDT
              anonymous-1077600

              I like a lot of different types of music, from the 50's to now, I don't listen to a lot, as the writer put mainly in my car. I was thinking about this not too long ago. Sometimes I'll sit in my car for a couple of songs I like, and singing along off key of course.

              • 4 votes
              Reply#24 - Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:18 AM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              oo long ago. Sometimes I'll sit in my car for a couple of songs I like, and singing along off key of course.

              i'd sing along on key if i had that ability but i dont

              • 3 votes
              #24.1 - Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:07 PM EDT
              inmycircle

              Hey you're like me.

                #24.2 - Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:13 PM EDT
                anonymous-1077600

                i'd sing along on key if i had that ability but i dont

                lol

                Oh well at least I can listen to people who have that wonderful ability.

                • 1 vote
                #24.3 - Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:29 PM EDT
                Scott (Scoop) Butki

                Oh well at least I can listen to people who have that wonderful ability.

                exactly! i had the same problem as described here.

                  #24.4 - Tue Dec 1, 2009 11:28 PM EST
                  Reply
                  inmycircle

                  I like to collect music and movies from the past. I don't know why. Even when I was Young I wanted to collect old music. Now years later I want to collect the music that was popular when I wanted to collect the old. I do like modern music too.

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#25 - Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:26 PM EDT
                  anonymous-1077600

                  I like all different types also and have collected anywhere from orchestra and the masters, to country, to pop, and rap, etc... I haven't bought that much music lately. I don't like that they want to charge per song, and before it was per the album or cd. In the past I have bought an album or cd for just a single song, but not often. I'd rather have several good songs by the same artist. It doesn't mean that the other song or songs have to be hits, I like some songs that aren't.

                  • 3 votes
                  #25.1 - Tue Aug 11, 2009 10:50 PM EDT
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