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Five Things the Indiana Jones Movie Did Wrong (warning: Spoilers)

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I liked the way Mykola addressed the Indiana Jones movies – rather than writing a straight review he made a list. Here is his list of ten things George Lucas and the movie did right

I was, frankly, underwhelmed, by the movie.

1 – Spielberg and Lucas fell for the "everything but the kitchen sink" mistake. Watching the movie reminded me of the first few episodes of the tv series House after the writer's strike, when there were too many different things thrown into the mix.

2. – The good news is there is no equivalent to a character as annoying as Jar Jar. The bad news is that there are scenes, like one in which Shia LaBeouf is racing across a jungle along with hundreds of sorta cute monkeys and I sighed and thought, "Oh, God, here come the Indy equivalent of ewoks."

3 – The Mac plot thread. Without giving too much away, let's just say the character is clichéd (greedy, cocky, stupid) and I tired of him in the first 30 minutes and my heart sank each time he came back on screen. Come to think of it, he IS sort of the Indy equivalent, for me at least, to Jar Jar.

4 – Wooden dialogue and some wooden acting. It's a bad sign when you can guess what an actor will say before he or she says it, especially when you've not watched an Indiana Jones move in more than five years. In other words, the dialogue was predictable and clichéd, which seems to often be the case in George Lucas-written stories. Also I was underwhelmed by Shia's acting. As Time put it in their review LaBeouf is "an intelligent actor without an ounce of charisma."

5 - All that said, there are good parts to the movie. It has lots of good action scenes, for example. But to me this reminded me less of Raiders of the Ark and more of the Temple of Doom, meaning some good scenes but some that go on so long and are so clichéd, that I really can't see watching it again and again.">

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Obviously this list is subjective and your mileage may vary. But these were the problems I had with
the movie, which I saw which I saw last night.

I kept thinking of Emily's piece about Social Graces as I watched it because I saw it with three special needs adults I work with and they did some things which would have irked some of those in the Social Graces thread.

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Reply#1 - Wed May 28, 2008 9:39 AM EDT
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Just added a few poll questions.

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#1.1 - Wed May 28, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1847595,"authorDomain":"steelerdog"}

Yeah, pretty good recap. I thought Ford was a little too old to be doing any kind of action scenes, and the scenes inside the temple were too much like the ones in National Tresure 2. I still enjoyed it, but not nearly as much as something fresh like Iron Man.

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Reply#2 - Wed May 28, 2008 9:51 AM EDT
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I didn't mind his age but the scenes inside the temple seemed, well, dated.

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#2.1 - Wed May 28, 2008 10:44 AM EDT
{"commentId":1848316,"authorDomain":"Emily"}
I thought Ford was a little too old to be doing any kind of action scenes

I agree, when I can tell his stunt double is doing an action sequence because he moves like a man 30 years younger, it's kind of annoying.

there is no equivalent to a character as annoying as Jar Jar

Indeed.

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#2.2 - Wed May 28, 2008 1:30 PM EDT
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agree, when I can tell his stunt double is doing an action sequence because he moves like a man 30 years younger, it's kind of annoying.

I didn't notice that but then I wasn't looking for it.

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#2.3 - Wed May 28, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
{"commentId":2314230,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

The new Indie Jones was an okay ride, but pretty forgettable.

As I mentioned in your other thread, I'm not a Spielberg fan and never have been.

George Lucas, like Robert Heinlein and Piers Anthony, were all artists I considered giants at one time, but have not just slipped from grace, but fallen into disgrace.

With regard to the unmentionable second trilogy, in THE COMEDIANS OF COMEDY, Brian Posehn says it perfectly (I can't find the quote, so this is a paraphrase of memory):

It's like suddenly waking up and finding that your favorite uncle has entered your bedroom and put his penis across your face.

Yeah, that exactly captures the sense of shocked and surprised violation I feel about the second trilogy. The first three are modern landmarks that forever changed movie SF. The second three are almost unwatchable.

And then there's the little bit of despicable revisionism regarding Han Solo and Geedo.

Maybe no one around Lucas has the courage to tell him when his ideas ain't so great.

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#2.4 - Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:52 PM EDT
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Maybe no one around Lucas has the courage to tell him when his ideas ain't so great.

He needs somene to do that. I thought it was interesting reading interviews with Lucas/Spielberg a few months ago and Lucas basically said he knew the movie would be criticized because his sequesl always draw criticism. His argument was "there's no way you can meet expectations." But my thinking was, "put out something that doesn't suck and you won't get crap.

My take on it was he knew they'd get trashed and he didn't care. Which is fine if the goal is just to make money but a terrible attitude if he wants to learn from mistakes because then the movie(s) can make huge mistakes.

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#2.5 - Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:46 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1847707,"authorDomain":"deatienza"}

I liked this one considerably more than I liked Temple, actually. I'm on the fence with Shia Labeouf, because he kind of irritated me half the time and engaged me half the time. I did enjoy how he handled the knife-work though.

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Reply#3 - Wed May 28, 2008 10:19 AM EDT
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I didn't mind his knife work but the combing his hair thing got old the third time he did it.

It was better than temple but worse than the first and third movies imho.

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#3.1 - Wed May 28, 2008 10:45 AM EDT
{"commentId":1874869,"authorDomain":"blacktideao"}

Shia Labeouf was completely the wrong cast for that role and I'm surprised more people aren't making a bigger deal out of it, especially since there may be another movie... He had none of the charming qualities that the role needed. He had no adventurous spirit! It was like he was playing the part, but had no passion for anything. The dialogue with him was too clichéd with him and there was no character to his part. The movie could really have used the "son of Indy" to have grown up apart but with the same spirit that carried all the other movies, from a different angle, and then they meet and realize they are the same father/son bit Ford had with Connery. It was Indiana Jone's so it's cool, but there was a lot more that could have been better with, no?

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#3.2 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
{"commentId":1881503,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
Shia Labeouf was completely the wrong cast for that role and I'm surprised more people aren't making a bigger deal out of it, especially since there may be another movie... He had none of the charming qualities that the role needed. He had no adventurous spirit! It was like he was playing the part, but had no passion for anything. The dialogue with him was too clichéd with him and there was no character to his part. The movie could really have used the "son of Indy" to have grown up apart but with the same spirit that carried all the other movies, from a different angle, and then they meet and realize they are the same father/son bit Ford had with Connery. It was Indiana Jone's so it's cool, but there was a lot more that could have been better with, no?

It's interesting to read these comments (and the reviews) as some, like you and me, think he was off or the wrong casting choice while others think he did great. It makes me wonder if we were watching the same actor or movie.

And yes some of my frustration comes from the fact they could have done so much more with his part.

How about if they made him someone who was a bookworm (like his dad) but hated adventure and was pro-communist.

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#3.3 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:43 AM EDT
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{"commentId":1847955,"authorDomain":"dbstovall"}

I was pretty disappointed by the movie. I kind of enjoyed Temple of Doom more than this just because of the plot. The entire purpose of the artifact and its eventual role in the climax of the movie felt completely hollow to me. I think it is probably just the subject matter that doesn't agree with me. I never found that type of story very appealing except in a campy, tongue in cheek sort of way a-la Douglas Adams (I hope I haven't given to much away).

At times, the action sequences in the movie went entirely over the top. One of the things I loved about the franchise was that Jones was able to overcome incredible odds with just his wits, his fists, his whip, a pistol and huge huevos. But even during all those exciting scenes in the previous movies, when he is taking on scores of Nazis or Voodoo priest child-slave drivers, I never had a moment when I thought "Oh come on, really?". However, I had a few of those moments in Crystal Skulls. Especially, the sword fighting and Tarzan scenes.

I loved the opening sequence and chase scene through the college. Those felt like classic Jones action sequences. And the jungle chase was good up until the fencing started. However, surviving the weapons test was just a bit too much for me in that otherwise great opening sequence. All in all, I go back and forth on whether this is better or worse than Temple. One thing is for sure. I wish I had saved my money and waited for it to hit the dollar theater or video.

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Reply#4 - Wed May 28, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
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I kin
d of enjoyed Temple of Doom more than this just because of the plot.

Yes I think the plot of this one was awful.

At times, the action sequences in the movie went entirely over the top.

Yes! And it's not like it hasn't done that before but this time it seemed too much. And I know some are saying but that's a way of paying tribute to the movies of that style and... well, that just sounds like a copout to me. Sorry and no offense but no, I disagree.

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#4.1 - Thu May 29, 2008 9:58 AM EDT
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It was almost like the movie was thrown together so that they could get the movie out before Ford was too old to do the action scenes. I liked the first three better but this is still a good action flick.

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Reply#5 - Fri May 30, 2008 5:29 PM EDT
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As a simple action movie it was good. It's when you step back and try to make sense of the plot that things get more complicated. But then you say, hey, nobody watches Indy movies for a deep plot. Still, the last 30 minutes - well, let's just say I'd like those last 30 minutes back.

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#5.1 - Fri May 30, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
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"the House"?

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Reply#6 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 4:18 AM EDT
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Sorry that wasn't clear was it? I just amended it like so:
1 – Spielberg and Lucas fell for the "everything but the kitchen sink" mistake. Watching the movie reminded me of the first few episodes of the tv series

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#6.1 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 5:48 PM EDT
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It was good to see Karen Allen but they didn't give her anything to do and I couldn't figure out why she was in the jungle. Her acting skills are a bit rusty after all these years but Ford seemed as wooden as she did sometimes. They needed better dialogue. Blanchett was pretty good I guess but hammy and unthreatening. The stunt double stuff was embarrassing. LaBoeuf was just so so. They wasted Jim Broadbent, a very fine actor. And the greedy guy who won't leave a disintegrating building just so he can grab a few more trinkets might have been good in the old Tarzan movies. And didn't the skull look like it was full of Saran wrap? I wish they'd have stayed in the warehouse with all the secret stuff. Really underwhelming tired plot and corny dialogue. Loved the ants and the prairie dogs (though Meerkat Manor is better!). Bring back the pyramids and the evil dorky Nazi with the coat hanger!!!

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Reply#7 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
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Spot on.

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#7.1 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 6:04 PM EDT
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It amazed me how quickly the lady caught up to them, they went over three waterfalls, then went down a tunnel where the steps disappeared and fell into water and BAM! there she was, clothes and hair dry.

Also with all the water they were in, His hat never got wet or lost.

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Reply#8 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 5:45 PM EDT
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I was more impressed that the electronic blinking things he seemed to be leaving behind so she can track them all stayed in his pocket and didn't short circuit when they got soaked.

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#8.1 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 6:37 PM EDT
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Scott:
I must confess I haven't seen this Indy movie, however I watched LeBeouf in Transformers and really enjoyed his work in it.

This Crystal Skull movie, however, validates my theory that if a movie has a reasonable chance of making money, it will be made. LOL Sounds like it was pretty rough compared to the rest of the series of movies. Sen And The City is another example. Naysayers screamed "They all hate Kim Cattrall, it'll never work!" I calmly sat back and said "It'll make money, that movie will be made no matter how long it takes to negotiate." It took a few years, but I was vindicated. Those Cosmo-swilling cougars put their foot up Indy's ass and dethroned him on Friday. :-)

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Reply#9 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
{"commentId":1873367,"authorDomain":"Aaronjs"}

I wish this was Indiana Jones 20 so i could say they are running out of Nazis or evil cult story's so they had to do Russian alien story. A trophy wife was needed for Indiana I need bouncy tit and scared of skeletons. If I was looking for my 13 head the door would be wide open for everyone to bring it to me. It just seem like it was something that should have been resolved a 1000 years before Indiana Jones was born. LaBoeuf loved him in transformers but a 1000 other people could have did a better job as Indiana Jones kid. Indiana Jones is not P.C. he is just a urban John Wayne.

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Reply#10 - Sun Jun 1, 2008 11:37 PM EDT
{"commentId":1876271,"authorDomain":"ladiebug77"}

13th head - Yeah.

LaBoeuf was better than I expected - the foreshadowing silhouette of them facing each other over the table in the diner was pretty good. He was also good as a teen in the movie "Holes" several years ago, which had kind of intertwining stories from the past and the present: if y'all haven't seen that, you should!

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#10.1 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1873796,"authorDomain":"psychohead"}

I enjoyed the movie AAAALLLLLLLLLLL the way !
Good concept. A bit of a twist to getting close to intertwining the rosewell with the mayan mythology, but heck its a movie !!!!
Indy remains Indy ! :D

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Reply#11 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 2:02 AM EDT
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Your post is currently a bit confusing in that it's titled "Five Things ... Wrong" but only items 1 and 5 are here. Also, item 1 is choppily edited (Note: "the tv seriesl say before"):

1 – Spielberg and Lucas fell for the "everything but the kitchen sink" mistake. Watching the movie reminded me of the first few episodes of the tv seriesl say before he or she says it, especially when you've not watched an Indiana Jones move in more than five years. In other words, the dialogue was predictable and clichéd, which seems to often be the case in George Lucas-written stories. Also I was underwhelmed by Shia's acting. As Time put it in their review LaBeouf is "an intelligent actor without an ounce of charisma."

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Reply#12 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 8:56 AM EDT
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Oops, that was a coding erorr. Let me fix that. That came when I tried to fix the reference to the tv series house.

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#12.1 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 9:53 AM EDT
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{"commentId":1874772,"authorDomain":"sands-larry"}

Is it just my copy of this article or am I missing something??? What happened to reasons 2,3 & 4 ??? The article skipped from reason 1 straight to reason 5. Did reasons 2, 3, & 4 offend someone?

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Reply#13 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
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{"commentId":1875219,"authorDomain":"rlysobey"}

George Lucas has once again managed to rape a great part of my childhood. I mean really, a spaceship at the end. I will take melting Nazis and the 200 year old knight hanging out in a cave, but a friggin spaceship. Not even a space ship, a damned flying saucer. I can't even rationally discuss this!

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Reply#14 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 11:21 AM EDT
{"commentId":1875766,"authorDomain":"thura"}

Ahem, wasn't it 'dimensional ship?' Yeah, I felt the same way too.

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#14.1 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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managed to rape a great part of my childhood. I mean really, a spaceship at the end. I will take melting Nazis and the 200 year old knight hanging out in a cave, but a friggin spaceship. Not even a space ship, a damned flying saucer. I can't even rationally discuss this!

Yikes - ok, I'm going to add a spoiler warning to this now that you brought up the spaceship.
Did anyone else think, "Oh, god, it's Close Encounters all over again, only without the mashed potatos or Richard Dreyfus?"

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#14.2 - Tue Jun 3, 2008 10:48 AM EDT
{"commentId":2325519,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

That didn't occur to me (although the pilot episode of STAR TREK:TNG did).

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS is exactly when I began thinking Spielberg was a hack. Mashed potatoes, a terribly under-used Terri Garr as the typical model X27 Doubting Wife and just a general lameness to the whole thing.

Ugh. I'd actually managed to blank out certain parts of Indie Jones. I actually didn't get the s---- s--- reference until the spoilers here. Movies that bore me just don't use up my brain cells I guess (I have so few left!).

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#14.3 - Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:57 PM EDT
{"commentId":3693724,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}

George Lucas has once again managed to rape a great part of my childhood.....

The South Park treatment was very interesting......

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#14.4 - Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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{"commentId":1875492,"authorDomain":"yosh-1"}

I'm also missing 2,3,4... Thought I was going crazy there for a second.

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    Reply#15 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 12:09 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1875777,"authorDomain":"thura"}

    I too was underwhelmed. Crystal Skull is a missed opportunity if it was anything - after all the wait for the 'right script,' and we get this? Either Lucas, Spielberg and Ford were bull@!$%#ting or they don't know a good script if it bit them in the butt.

    And what is with the Tarzan thing anyway way.

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    Reply#16 - Mon Jun 2, 2008 12:53 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":1924558,"authorDomain":"RebelGirl"}

    I don't think this movie was awful, but it wasn't the best, I have seen much worse. I really like Labouf in other work, so maybe it was just a bad film with bad acting all around, even Kate Blanchet didn't shine.

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    Reply#17 - Mon Jun 9, 2008 9:33 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1926259,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    I didn't say it was awful - I just felt.. well, underwhelmed is the word that comes to mind. It felt like it was done in a go-through-the-motions as opposed to really being into kinda way.

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    #17.1 - Mon Jun 9, 2008 2:28 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2314261,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

    And wasn't the whole "surprise, you have an angry adult son" thing done in STAR TREK 2?

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    Reply#18 - Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
    {"commentId":3693532,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Sounds like there are some good extras on this edition of the movie

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      Reply#19 - Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:03 PM EDT
      {"commentId":4512211,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      I heard this report referenced on the radio over the weekend - this movie has the distinction of having the most spotted mistakes (from disappearing characters to visible film equipment)

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