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What Are Your Grammar Pet Peeves?

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We've talked some about pet peeves but lately I've been thinking about grammar pet peeves.

My biggest grammar pet peeve, as you can see from this photo, is got. I place much of the blame on people saying "got" when they really mean "have" on that damn "Got Milk" ad campaign, which seemed to suggest it's perfectly ok to say "got" instead of have.

My most common grammatical mistake – which might well be someone's major grammar pet peeve – is mixing up "then" and "than." Vincent did a good job here of explaining the difference between the two.

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{"commentId":1743437,"authorDomain":"raychelfitzgerald"}

most hated grammatical errors...... "I seen it" "can I axe you a question?" "too, to , or two used in the wrong context"
I seen it is definately the one I hate the most

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Reply#51 - Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
{"commentId":1743562,"authorDomain":"cplmcl"}

Okay, this is exactly what's wrong with this. Here someone gives his pet grammatical peeves, and spells a word wrong while doing it.

How about we don't worry about other people's grammatical/spelling errors and focus on our own? Wouldn't that be just lovely?

I sure think it would.

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#51.1 - Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:30 PM EDT
{"commentId":1746436,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

"Axe" instead of "ask is a pet peeve of mine too but as with mine that's less grammar than verbal - most students I've dealt with who say "axe" spell it on paper as "ask."

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    #51.2 - Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:38 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":1749070,"authorDomain":"bartning"}

    I'm late, but as they say, "Better late than never." Thanks for the reference, Scott, and I notice the "then" rather than "than" error at least once in here :)

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    Reply#52 - Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:45 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1749976,"authorDomain":"melonhead"}

    I've noticed that I will type the homonym of a word even when I know better, or even similar sounds that have nothing to do with how I think of language ("half too" for "have to") - which I attribute to the misfirings of a middle-aged brain. Of course penning things such as "Up ledge all regions Tudor flak" over the years has probably made me vulnerable.

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    #52.1 - Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:48 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1754519,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Vincent feel free to post a link to the then/than cheater sheet.

    I still hope we can get someone to write a grammar column to deal with topics like this:

    I always get fine, good and
    well confused.

    fine/good/well

    etc.

    "I write good"
    or "I write well" (the latter, I think)

    But it's "I feel good" not "I feel well" (or so says
    James Brown)

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    #52.2 - Thu May 1, 2008 11:21 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1755307,"authorDomain":"bartning"}

    Thanks, Scott!

    Besides, the "'Than' and 'Then' Getting Switched!" article, I also wrote a related one entitled "Editing Newsvine Articles After Publication."

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    #52.3 - Thu May 1, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1758438,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Great. I'll have to check that one out too.

    Would you be willing to be a newsvine grammar advice columnist? I'll help provide the questions.

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    #52.4 - Fri May 2, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1762350,"authorDomain":"bartning"}

    OK.

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    #52.5 - Sat May 3, 2008 5:49 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1765601,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Is that a yes?

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    #52.6 - Sun May 4, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
    {"commentId":1778897,"authorDomain":"bartning"}

    I'd like to if I have time. Thanks! BTW: How come this article doesn't appear in March's articles in your column? I see only 3 articles for March, not this one. I had to go through my History to get to it. Is it just too early in the monring for NV?

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    #52.7 - Thu May 8, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
    {"commentId":1779317,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Dunno about that.

    I just posted some comments to your piece about editing.

    Can I suggest a topic for your next column on grammar? How about one on size issues (i.e people getting confused between more than and higher ("I have more than $100, I have more than 50 votes?) as well as the converse - lower vs less than.

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    #52.8 - Thu May 8, 2008 12:06 PM EDT
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    {"commentId":2017472,"authorDomain":"enigmaobscura"}

    Think I have one no one listed. I always think of it as a conditional past-tense but that's not really correct. Something like a hypothetical conditional tense. It probably has a real name. :)

    Incorrect:
    If I was going to kill you, you'd already be dead.

    Correct:
    If I were going to kill you, you'd already be dead.

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    Reply#53 - Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
    {"commentId":2046350,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Oh, yes, that's a good one

    Here's my new grammar pet peeve: a local tv ad campaign that has this slogan: "It don't get better then this!" which should be, of course, "It doesn't get better than this!"

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      #53.1 - Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
      {"commentId":4346088,"authorDomain":"rickace"}

      enigma

      It probably has a real name. :)

      Indeed it does: the subjunctive mood. Moods are distinct from tenses.

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      #53.2 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 2:41 PM EST
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      {"commentId":2052604,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

      One that really jumps out at me every time I hear it is 'Try and', when of course the speaker is really saying 'Try to'.

      Poloticians, newsreaders, even teachers get this one wrong.

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      Reply#54 - Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:50 AM EDT
      {"commentId":2079912,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Yes, that's one of those prime examplse - another is the word "like" being used to mean "for example" - that may have reached the point beyond which we can never get the genie back in the bottle.

      i.e. store owner: "You stole my soup"
      robber: "try and stop me!"
      owner: "I will with, like, my can opener."
      robber: "oh my god, like, not the can opener! uh oh, they're here!
      owner: "the cops?"
      robber: "no, the grammar cops and we are sooo busted."

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      #54.1 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2080283,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

      :¬)

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      #54.2 - Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2287893,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      My peeve lately is how fast food companies are butchering the English language.

      I'm sick of being asked if I want to "biggie size" things - partially because big is itself a size and so it's a redundant question.

      Or take last nite, for example. Ordering an iced tea at a Burger King I was asked if I wanted "large or king size," and I was struck by this question: Since when is king a size? Has the monarchy and other royalty been informed of this? Is queen now also a size or is this just a male "size does matter" type thing?

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      Reply#55 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2287975,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

      Pet peeves:

      1. Improper use of quotation marks
      2. The use of "IRREGARDLESS"
      3. The use of "anyways"
      4. Substituting you with "U"

      Argh.

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      Reply#56 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2295434,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Pet peeves:

      1. Improper use of quotation marks
      2. The use of "IRREGARDLESS"
      3. The use of "anyways"
      4. Substituting you with "U"

      Argh.

      u r so rt about that irregardless of my problems

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      #56.1 - Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:03 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2295485,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

      Scott-

      You're fired.

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      #56.2 - Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:10 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2295691,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Scott-

      You're fired.

      What are you, Donald Trump?

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      #56.3 - Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:39 PM EDT
      {"commentId":2296503,"authorDomain":"mysticchick"}

      ::grin:: I'll comb over my hair just for you!!

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      #56.4 - Sun Jul 27, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":2288023,"authorDomain":"umadoshi"}

      Okay, though funny, and quite educational, this was a painful read for me.

      To answer the question "What are your grammar pet peeves?" :

      Grammar.

      It has always been my monster in the closet, that big ogre awaiting with glowing eyes in the dark and a smile you could imagine.

      Although every time I tackle it, it simply ends up being a teddy bear. (considering I have the reference books on the side).

      Thanks for the article Scott.

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        Reply#57 - Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2295684,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        You're quite welcome. For my money the best book on grammar, including the thorny matter of when to use semi-colons, is Stephen King's On Writing book.

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        #57.1 - Sun Jul 27, 2008 6:38 PM EDT
        {"commentId":2319576,"authorDomain":"umadoshi"}

        Scott, I can not thank you enough for making me read King's book again. It was way over due. Took me 2 days, but I have done it, and will be sure to read it again soon. Not only did it give me a fresh enthusiasm to review my English grammar, but reminded me also of why I loved Stephen King's writing so much.

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        #57.2 - Wed Jul 30, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
        {"commentId":2342512,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        The irony is I find reading King's novels frustrating because I hate his endings - I talked about that in a review i did of Nick Hornby's most recent adult novel - but his ideas and his beginnings are almost always interesting.

        Glad you enjoyed the book.

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        #57.3 - Fri Aug 1, 2008 1:06 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":2342645,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        A glance at today's front page of our local newspaper reminded me of another grammar pet peeve, namely double negatives.

        The headline is:
        "Commission rules Cromer did not act unethically"

        It could be worse - it could be a triple negative which usually causes my brain to implode

        But I'm sure I'm not the only one who, upon coming across a double negative stops and does what I'll call grammar math (thinking ok, that one cancels out that one and we're left with zero).

        Writing coaches - including King - will caution that a reader should not have to pause when reading a sentence to try to sort out its meaning.This is the problem with double negatives. This is also the problem - thus the need for writing coaches - in journalism when writers try to stuff the who, what, where, why and how into one sentence.

        Anyway the story is about a councilwoman who told a cop, who pulled her over, "do you know who I am?"

        She was accused of breaking ethics rulse. So the author of the piece - whose phrase was then used in the headline too - was trying to say she was found to have not broken those rules. Thus it becomes "commission rules Cromer did not act unethically"

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          Reply#58 - Fri Aug 1, 2008 1:18 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2355150,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

          a person questioned me on this and I wrote this

          might turn this into an article at some point:
          I agree this - "Cromer acted ethically" - is vague for the same reasons you won't see headlines like - OJ is innocent as opposed to OJ found not guilty. that's why i then suggested ""Cromer did not break ethics rules" which I thought was both specific enough and didn't cause a flow issue.

          My beef with double negatives is that it's disruptive as a reader. A rule of thumb in journalism is that a) most readers won't read more than the first two paragraphs. This is one reason you see so many try to pack so much stuff - usually too much - into that first paragraph and b) when a reader stops reading - be it because they get bored or confused - they will then move on to the next story. I think most readers here are atypical in that they will probably read stories to the end but most readers don't do that.

          Here's the rub - by throwing so much stuff into that first paragraph (a) writers are more likely to cause b.

          And it's not just local newspapers. Look at a typical Washington Post front page story and it'll often be 40 plus words (most newspapers I've worked for have a 35 word limit per setence) and two or three paranthetical clauses. If you're used to reading jouralese that's easily decipherable. But most people aren't.
          Thus the advice at writing seminars - write like you're telling the story to a spouse or your mom. You probably wouldn't say it in 40 words with there clause and a sentence disagram structure that would make english teachers brains explode

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          #58.1 - Sun Aug 3, 2008 2:15 PM EDT
          {"commentId":2408233,"authorDomain":"firsty"}

          gardner's dream analogy fits so many writing rules that it should become part of the most fundamental freshman english courses. if it's not already. havent been to school in a while.

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          #58.2 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 2:42 AM EDT
          {"commentId":2408659,"authorDomain":"eddiefrench"}

          Aaaaghhh!
          People who start sentences with a lower case letter.

          (And people who write Aaaaagh!)

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          #58.3 - Sat Aug 9, 2008 6:50 AM EDT
          {"commentId":2418879,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

          firsty, can you summarize Gardner's draem analogy?

          Eddie, play nice please.

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            #58.4 - Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":2376077,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
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            Reply#59 - Tue Aug 5, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2420756,"authorDomain":"sybiletc"}

            I noticed something in a novel I was reading recently, not really grammar, but still bugged the heck out of me.

            It was the use of the word sinewy. It's not the word I object to, but it was used on the first page, and I noticed because it is not a common word. It was used to descibe meat that was being eaten. Okay, fine, but then a couple of pages later, it was used again, and then a few pages later again, on to the end of the book. Each instance it was used correctly, but it seemed odd, because it is not a frequently used word.

            I am sure I saw that word more in this one book, then I have ever seen it in print in my whole life.

            This reminded me of another article I read, and never had time to respond to. It was about hints or such on how to begin to write. Something was in it about reading good books, or great books.

            I agree with that, but also, for me, reading bad books. Reading to me is like watching TV, I do it to fill time and just do something. I am always with a book. I can read 3 or 4 fiction books (almost anything except romance) a week. So, I read a lot, a lot. I have read many things with okay plots, but the writing is horrible, the more I read the more I recognize it as such, and the more I learn what not to do.

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            Reply#60 - Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:56 AM EDT
            {"commentId":2481649,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
            indeed me of another article I read, and never had time to respond to. It was about hints or such on how to begin to write. Som

            That sounds like something I wrote, namely this

            fiction books (almost anything except romance) a week. So, I read a lot, a lot. I have read many things with okay plots, but the writing is horrible, the more I read the more I recognize it as such, and the more I learn what not to do.

            I really like that point. You should elaborate on that and make it a full article. It reminds me of how usually I criticize tv programs since so much of it was bad but at one point I decided to try the other extreme and this was the result

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            #60.1 - Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:36 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2483667,"authorDomain":"sybiletc"}
            That sounds like something I wrote, namely this

            You are correct. I have little time lately, but once again, intend to go back and read that.

            I will also consider and article, though I have not considered myself enough of a writer to do one on that subject before.

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            #60.2 - Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:23 PM EDT
            {"commentId":2484585,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
            consider and article, though I have not considered myself enough of a writer to do one on that subject before.

            drop me an email and I can help.

            judging by what I've read by you I think you can pull it off.

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              #60.3 - Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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              {"commentId":2578559,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

              One way to deal with your grammar pet peeves

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              Reply#61 - Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2631873,"authorDomain":"sybiletc"}

              Scott, I have a question, not about grammar at all. I have been here only since June twentyninth. I wonder what is the "payout" that shows on my own thingy.. all about? I only had two days in june and show a ninty three cents payment awarded for June. I did not know Newsvine paid people, and in no way did I imagine that even if it did, I would deserve. how and why is it done...
              oh, by the way, my pet peeve for now is the fact that last years teacher accepted words spelled "creatively", and now I must dock points for misspelled words.. They write sentences such as "I think I goned ther, but i aren't goned enimor".

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              Reply#62 - Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:29 AM EDT
              {"commentId":2691574,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

              Ah, payout - let's answer that one over in the mentors topic because it's a common question.

              I hate creative spelling - I can see accepting it if the kids are maybe in first grade and you don't want them to discourage trying to write but older than that is a bad idea.

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              #62.1 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 7:56 AM EDT
              {"commentId":2703708,"authorDomain":"sybiletc"}
              maybe in first grade and you don't want them to

              Well, to me, you maybe wouldn't count it off for points, but still put the correct spelling on the paper. I am working with 3rd graders, who first and second grade teacher thought that, so now it is shell shock to get it marked WRONG.

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              #62.2 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 6:20 PM EDT
              {"commentId":2703924,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

              I've heard arguments from both sides on that one, some fear it will deter future writing while others say it must be fixed asap

              By the way is red ink banned in your schools? It was banned in mine

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                #62.3 - Tue Sep 2, 2008 6:32 PM EDT
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                {"commentId":2858102,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                I'm not sure whether to call this a typo or a grammar pet peeve but what's your reaction to this headline in the local paper:
                Many Voters Agree James Buchanan Needs Fixed

                i think it needs to either be "needs fixing" or "fixes needs" and maybe it was supposed to be one of those but the result reads wrong. It's about an election to get money to fix building needs so no the needs have not been fixed, which is the only way the headline could be right in my book

                hmm, online they changed it to:
                James Buchanan High School renovations voted down

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                  Reply#63 - Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:14 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":4343151,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                  Peeve:
                  Starbucks and its re-invention/bastardizing of the English language.

                  Why in the world is a tall, such as, for example, a tall hot chocolate there (not that I had one there last nite at 7 pm) what would be considered a small in "normal" language?

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                    Reply#64 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 11:50 AM EST
                    {"commentId":4346403,"authorDomain":"rickace"}

                    Lack of punctuation and/or capitalization where requried.

                    Improper use of punctuation (e.g., ending an interrogatory sentence with a period)

                    "New and improved", which are mutually exclusive.

                    "Very unique" - Something is either unique or it's not; there is no continuum.

                    "This needs to go in the dishwasher." - Inanimate objects do not have needs.

                    principal/principle

                    complimentary/complementary

                    As LunarTick mentioned above, verbing nouns. Specifically: "leverage" in lieu of exploit

                    More will of course spring to mind immediately after hitting Post Comment, but I'm going to do it anyway :-)

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                    Reply#65 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 3:02 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4522134,"authorDomain":"rickace"}

                    "as per"

                    "consensus of opinion"

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                    #65.1 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:54 AM EST
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                    {"commentId":4350209,"authorDomain":"formermormon"}

                    When I hear people say "I seen ..." .  It drives me crazy.  Around here we also have a lot of "might would/might could/might should.  "I might would buy one of those if I could afford it" "I might should go to the store today."  "I might could be finished by 5." Or, how about, "I'm fixin' to ..."

                    Sometime we should talk about weird regional expressions.  For example, where I'm from, if a woman is talking about her "outfit", she is referring to what she's wearing, but if a man says it, he's referring to what he's driving.

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                    Reply#66 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 7:37 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4350646,"authorDomain":"inghar2004"}

                    And in NY, it refers either to someone's drug equipment, or their gun:-)

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                    #66.1 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:16 PM EST
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                    {"commentId":4350420,"authorDomain":"rwal54"}

                    Ain't got none...That one just sends a shiver down my spine.

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                    Reply#67 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 7:55 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4350784,"authorDomain":"angela593"}

                    the disappearance of adverbs

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                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#68 - Mon Dec 8, 2008 8:28 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4362315,"authorDomain":"ProgrammerDude"}

                    The thing is, American English is (one of the few, if not only, remaining) dynamic living languages left, and the simple fact is that it does constantly evolve over time.

                    That said, the current evolution seems (to me) more a case of ignorance than style, which is a pity.

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                    • 5 votes
                    Reply#69 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 4:46 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4379255,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                    So it's more de-evolution than evolution of language?:)

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                    • 1 vote
                    #69.1 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:49 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4384909,"authorDomain":"rickace"}

                    Q: Are we not men?

                    A: We are Devo!

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                    • 3 votes
                    #69.2 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:29 AM EST
                    {"commentId":4392618,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                    I was wondering if anyone would get that reference! I had to look it up to see if it was even a word

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                    • 1 vote
                    #69.3 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:51 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4393867,"authorDomain":"rickace"}

                    Scott dude, ...

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                    • 2 votes
                    #69.4 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:49 PM EST
                    {"commentId":4522357,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                    Yes?

                    {"commentId":4522357,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                      #69.5 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:09 PM EST
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                      {"commentId":4365572,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                      My list...

                      Using textspeak when typing.  Honestly, if you can't be bothered to type out the word for instead of 4, or great, not gr8...  And calling yourself 133t means, quite frankly, that you're likley an idiot.

                      Relying on spell check rather than your brains...  Spellcheck, but PROOFREAD. 

                      Their once lived a lovely pear of woman in a forest cabin. In the cabin was a set of stares witch lead to a top story. On the top floor, were too rooms. Won was a bathroom and the other was a bedroom.

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                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#70 - Tue Dec 9, 2008 9:18 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4379278,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                      Using textspeak when typing. Honestly, if you can't be bothered to type out the word for instead of 4, or great, not gr8... And calling yourself 133t means

                      u r so rt

                      :)

                      {"commentId":4379278,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                      • 1 vote
                      #70.1 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:51 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4384574,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                      Don't make me use my psychic powers to make your head explode, please, Scott, I like your columns, and would miss them.  ;D

                      {"commentId":4384574,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                      • 1 vote
                      #70.2 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:56 AM EST
                      {"commentId":4392629,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                      I'd rather ask that you write a how-to tutorial on how to use psychic powers

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                      • 1 vote
                      #70.3 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:52 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4392646,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                      I would, but then I'd have to chase down everyone who read it and explode their heads.  Exhausting.  One of 'em might take offense to something *I* post, y'see...

                      {"commentId":4392646,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                      • 1 vote
                      #70.4 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:53 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4393275,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                      that's why you start it with a disclaimer, i.e.

                      if you are offended by what you read then you must then follow these there steps:
                      1) toss your computer into a dumpster
                      2) forget my name
                      3) forget your name

                      ta da

                      {"commentId":4393275,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                      • 1 vote
                      #70.5 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:54 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4431535,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                      Hm...  Well, maybe.  I should warn you, exploding someone's head DOES require they actually have a functioning brain inside.  Otherwise, the 'vine would be down a poster or two.

                      {"commentId":4431535,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                      • 1 vote
                      #70.6 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:10 AM EST
                      {"commentId":4515752,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                      Ha.

                      Wait, you dont mean do you?

                      {"commentId":4515752,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                        #70.7 - Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:30 PM EST
                        {"commentId":4519837,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                        I wouldn't dream of pointing out to whom I'm referring...  However, I'll say I avoid posting on the threads of brainless idiots whenever possible.  :)

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                        • 1 vote
                        #70.8 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:29 AM EST
                        {"commentId":4519892,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                        I wouldn't dream of pointing out to whom I'm referring

                        Whew!

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                        • 2 votes
                        #70.9 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:36 AM EST
                        {"commentId":4520244,"authorDomain":"renderedtruth"}
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                        {"commentId":4521591,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                        whom I'm referring... However, I'll say I avoid posting on the threads of brainless idiots whenever possible. :)

                        And yet you posted here..
                        Or maybe this was an exception.

                        {"commentId":4521591,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                          #70.11 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:12 AM EST
                          {"commentId":4521635,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                          Honestly, if someone takes it as a personal attack that it bugs me when people shorthand rather than type stuff out, they need more help than anybody here can give them.  And I rather doubt that Tyler would smack me for pointing out to someone, directly, "Hey, I'm finding your posts difficult to read.  For the sake of us born prior to the cell phone generation, could you please try to spell correctly, and type out all of your words?  It would make your posts much more legible."

                          {"commentId":4521635,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                          • 1 vote
                          #70.12 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:16 AM EST
                          {"commentId":4522388,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                          I've been known to tell people I'll take them more seriously if they turn off caps lock or provide space so i dont think it is a stretch to ask that they say right instead of "rt"

                          {"commentId":4522388,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                            #70.13 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:11 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4522554,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                            Or all bold... another pet peeve.  :) 

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                            • 1 vote
                            #70.14 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:23 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4523486,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                            YES YOU ARE RT ABOUT THAT

                            {"commentId":4523486,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                            • 1 vote
                            #70.15 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:35 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4523736,"authorDomain":"rickace"}

                            YES YOU ARE RT ABOUT THAT

                            Bold, caps, "RT", no period ... aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

                            {"commentId":4523736,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rickace"}
                            • 3 votes
                            #70.16 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:56 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4524230,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                            Scott...  that headache you feel starting between your eyeballs and about an inch back?  That's the first sign of the exploding head thing happening...

                            {"commentId":4524230,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                            • 1 vote
                            #70.17 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 2:32 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4527474,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                            and i thought it was just a head cold...

                            {"commentId":4527474,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                            • 1 vote
                            #70.18 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:49 PM EST
                            Reply
                            {"commentId":4368321,"authorDomain":"dixiedi"}

                            bad grammar in advertising

                            {"commentId":4368321,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"dixiedi"}
                              Reply#71 - Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:46 AM EST
                              {"commentId":4390740,"authorDomain":"ibsatan"}

                              Saw one that said: 'The FUNNEST vacation ever.'

                              My nose began to bleed. I hate that so much, it gives me energy.

                              {"commentId":4390740,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"ibsatan"}
                                #71.1 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 3:52 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4392668,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                Ah, yes, I hear the word "funnest" used at least once a week. Drives me crazy every time though i've not had any bleeding nose side effects,thank god.

                                i can see it now:

                                man: I just got back from a vacation, It was the funnest trip ever!

                                (man sees me)
                                "Hey, your nose just started bleeding. are you ok?"

                                me: I'll be ok if you promise never to use the word "funnest again."

                                man: well, ok

                                and that's that

                                This has been the latest adventure of - da da da - superscoop, grammar cop

                                {"commentId":4392668,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                                • 1 vote
                                #71.2 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:55 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4392880,"authorDomain":"ibsatan"}

                                I don't think the conversation would go that far- after the guy notices my bloody nose and asks after my health, I'd most likely introduce him to the same condition with my forehead, screaming, 'FUNNEST IS NOT A WORD! FUNNEST IS NOT A WORD!'

                                Also, I hate those who think 'a lot' and 'every day' are one word. 'Everyday,' used in context, means average or normal. Common usage is destroying the English language. George Carlin said it best when he said, ' @^% common usage!'

                                {"commentId":4392880,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"ibsatan"}
                                • 2 votes
                                #71.3 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:14 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4393309,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                Sigh.

                                I miss Carlin

                                I still love that when he played a gig locally someone wrote a letter to the editor of our paper to comlain that Carlin's act was too vulgar.

                                To me that suggests someone either went to the show not knowing Carlin curses so much he makes sailors blush or... well, that's the only explanation I can come up with.

                                I really wanted the editor to write an editors note to the note i.e.
                                editors note: @!$%# you, you idiot

                                {"commentId":4393309,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                                • 3 votes
                                #71.4 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:57 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4431545,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                                someone wrote a letter to the editor of our paper to comlain that Carlin's act was too vulgar.

                                And someone forced this person to the show at gunpoint, I assume?

                                {"commentId":4431545,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                                • 1 vote
                                #71.5 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:11 AM EST
                                {"commentId":4437360,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                I believe the words used were: "watch this @!$%#ing show or @!$%#ing else"

                                :)

                                {"commentId":4437360,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                                  #71.6 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:34 PM EST
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                                  {"commentId":4393457,"authorDomain":"pegashford"}

                                  My pet peeves are spelling related. 'loose' for 'lose'   'there' for 'their and they're'!!

                                  Can't help it, my mom was an excellent secretary, and I now work in a library.

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                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#72 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 7:09 PM EST
                                  {"commentId":4394824,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                                  Scott/Tyler,

                                  I have voted for this article three times and it doesn't seem to be taking, fyi.

                                  Yup, just "posted comment/voted" and it didn't take again...

                                  {"commentId":4394824,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                                  • 2 votes
                                  Reply#73 - Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:13 PM EST
                                  {"commentId":4403370,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                  Welll I'm more happy to get a compliment than a vote anyway

                                  {"commentId":4403370,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                                  • 1 vote
                                  #73.1 - Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:28 PM EST
                                  Reply
                                  {"commentId":4515759,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                  ....i'm still getting used to people saying "axed" instead of asked  

                                  lately my pet peeve is fast food drive thru lines where you dont really get a chance to speak.  

                                  (and, yes, I'm aware I can avoid such situations if I avoid such businesses.  

                                  But let's take today's incident, for example.
                                  I pull up to Burger King intending to order a whopper meal with a sweet iced tea and onion rings
                                  If the lady would let me speak I could tell her that in ten words.
                                  Instead this woman was typical of most I deal with where they seem to think they must ask certain questions in a certain order, probably following a script or a menu on their screen  

                                  Thus we get this (each dash indicates an interruption of me)
                                  "Would you like to try to a value meal today?
                                  "I'd like a whopper meal with a sweet -
                                  "Would you like that medium or large?"
                                  "Medium with a sweet -
                                  "What would you like to drink?"
                                  (at this point I resist the urge to tell her if she'd just let me speak this is my third time trying to tell her I want a sweet iced tea."
                                  As she asks me three other questions I wait for a chance to ask for onion rings instead of fries which she practically sighs in response to like "have it your way" really means "don't annoy with any of those variations, you jerks"  

                                  By the time I get to the counter I feel like she should be paying me for playing along with her as she reads a script.  

                                  Sigh.  

                                  {"commentId":4515759,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                                    Reply#74 - Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:31 PM EST
                                    {"commentId":4519849,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                                    Would you like to try to a value meal today?
                                    "I'd like a whopper meal with a sweet -
                                    "Would you like that medium or large?"
                                    "Medium with a sweet -

                                    "No, ma'am, I'd like to give you my order without you interrupting everytime I open my mouth.  As a matter of fact, forget it, I'm going to McDonalds instead."

                                    {"commentId":4519849,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                                    • 1 vote
                                    #74.1 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:30 AM EST
                                    {"commentId":4521602,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                    yes, because it'd be so much better over there

                                    sigh

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                                    • 1 vote
                                    #74.2 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:13 AM EST
                                    {"commentId":4521709,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                                    Hey, if you're feeling cranky, park, walk inside, ask to talk to the manger, and tell HIM, "hey, your idiot on the drive-up window wouldn't let me give my order."  Or, better, go the corporate website and file a complaint.

                                    http://www.bk.com/CompanyInfo/contactus.aspx

                                    Use the locater there and contect your franchise directly, or file a complaint with BK directly telling 'em their policy is crap.  :)

                                    {"commentId":4521709,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                                    • 1 vote
                                    #74.3 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:22 AM EST
                                    {"commentId":4522435,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                    Thing is, I think they are doing it exactly the way the manager/corporation wants - it'd be a foolproof (however rude) way to get everything answered AND keep the actual response time down.

                                    besides i just finished a six week fight with best buy and that was over my computer. compared to that this is pretty low priority.

                                    {"commentId":4522435,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                                    • 1 vote
                                    #74.4 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:14 PM EST
                                    {"commentId":4522573,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                                    Probably...  Remember, they're likely hiring at minimum wage, they keep it simple so their staff can get through all the steps and not forget anything. 

                                    Suggestive selling, though, makes me crazy.  If I'm already late for my movie, I do NOT want to be asked if I want the next size up of popcorn for just fifty cents more.  I've stood in line for ten minutes already staring at the sign listing sizes and prices, I've already decided, honest.

                                    {"commentId":4522573,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                                    • 2 votes
                                    #74.5 - Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:26 PM EST
                                    {"commentId":4530949,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

                                    I'm with you but i'm not sure what we can do about it.

                                    {"commentId":4530949,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"sbutki"}
                                      #74.6 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:47 AM EST
                                      {"commentId":4531170,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}

                                      Dunno...  Maybe on the way out of the movie (because I'm not missing it for this), I'll explain to the manager why I changed my mind and decided NOT to buy food at his concession stand any more.  Ever.

                                      Theaters make a LOT of their money from the concession stands, and I can go without munchies for a couple hours if it'll make the idiots behind the counter actually move a little faster.

                                      {"commentId":4531170,"threadId":"240288","contentId":"1391220","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
                                        #74.7 - Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:10 AM EST
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                                        {"commentId":5258251,"authorDomain":"keliandar13"}

                                        My grammar is not perfect. There are however, some things that do bother me.

                                        I do not understand where the word "supposably" came from.

                                        The people at my place of business put apostrophe s for every word that ends in s.

                                        The word ask pronounced axe, et cetera excedra, and expresso espresso also bother me.

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                                        Reply#75 - Mon Feb 9, 2009 8:56 AM EST
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