
We've talked some about pet peeves but lately I've been thinking about grammar pet peeves.
My biggest grammar pet peeve, as you can see from this photo, is got. I place much of the blame on people saying "got" when they really mean "have" on that damn "Got Milk" ad campaign, which seemed to suggest it's perfectly ok to say "got" instead of have.
My most common grammatical mistake – which might well be someone's major grammar pet peeve – is mixing up "then" and "than." Vincent did a good job here of explaining the difference between the two.
most hated grammatical errors...... "I seen it" "can I axe you a question?" "too, to , or two used in the wrong context"
I seen it is definately the one I hate the most
Okay, this is exactly what's wrong with this. Here someone gives his pet grammatical peeves, and spells a word wrong while doing it.
How about we don't worry about other people's grammatical/spelling errors and focus on our own? Wouldn't that be just lovely?
I sure think it would.
I'm late, but as they say, "Better late than never." Thanks for the reference, Scott, and I notice the "then" rather than "than" error at least once in here :)
I've noticed that I will type the homonym of a word even when I know better, or even similar sounds that have nothing to do with how I think of language ("half too" for "have to") - which I attribute to the misfirings of a middle-aged brain. Of course penning things such as "Up ledge all regions Tudor flak" over the years has probably made me vulnerable.
Thanks, Scott!
Besides, the "'Than' and 'Then' Getting Switched!" article, I also wrote a related one entitled "Editing Newsvine Articles After Publication."
OK.
I'd like to if I have time. Thanks! BTW: How come this article doesn't appear in March's articles in your column? I see only 3 articles for March, not this one. I had to go through my History to get to it. Is it just too early in the monring for NV?
Think I have one no one listed. I always think of it as a conditional past-tense but that's not really correct. Something like a hypothetical conditional tense. It probably has a real name. :)
Incorrect:
If I was going to kill you, you'd already be dead.
Correct:
If I were going to kill you, you'd already be dead.
It probably has a real name. :)
Indeed it does: the subjunctive mood. Moods are distinct from tenses.
One that really jumps out at me every time I hear it is 'Try and', when of course the speaker is really saying 'Try to'.
Poloticians, newsreaders, even teachers get this one wrong.
:¬)
Pet peeves:
1. Improper use of quotation marks
2. The use of "IRREGARDLESS"
3. The use of "anyways"
4. Substituting you with "U"
Argh.
Scott-
You're fired.
::grin:: I'll comb over my hair just for you!!
Okay, though funny, and quite educational, this was a painful read for me.
To answer the question "What are your grammar pet peeves?" :
Grammar.
It has always been my monster in the closet, that big ogre awaiting with glowing eyes in the dark and a smile you could imagine.
Although every time I tackle it, it simply ends up being a teddy bear. (considering I have the reference books on the side).
Thanks for the article Scott.
Scott, I can not thank you enough for making me read King's book again. It was way over due. Took me 2 days, but I have done it, and will be sure to read it again soon. Not only did it give me a fresh enthusiasm to review my English grammar, but reminded me also of why I loved Stephen King's writing so much.
I noticed something in a novel I was reading recently, not really grammar, but still bugged the heck out of me.
It was the use of the word sinewy. It's not the word I object to, but it was used on the first page, and I noticed because it is not a common word. It was used to descibe meat that was being eaten. Okay, fine, but then a couple of pages later, it was used again, and then a few pages later again, on to the end of the book. Each instance it was used correctly, but it seemed odd, because it is not a frequently used word.
I am sure I saw that word more in this one book, then I have ever seen it in print in my whole life.
This reminded me of another article I read, and never had time to respond to. It was about hints or such on how to begin to write. Something was in it about reading good books, or great books.
I agree with that, but also, for me, reading bad books. Reading to me is like watching TV, I do it to fill time and just do something. I am always with a book. I can read 3 or 4 fiction books (almost anything except romance) a week. So, I read a lot, a lot. I have read many things with okay plots, but the writing is horrible, the more I read the more I recognize it as such, and the more I learn what not to do.
That sounds like something I wrote, namely this
You are correct. I have little time lately, but once again, intend to go back and read that.
I will also consider and article, though I have not considered myself enough of a writer to do one on that subject before.
Scott, I have a question, not about grammar at all. I have been here only since June twentyninth. I wonder what is the "payout" that shows on my own thingy.. all about?
I only had two days in june and show a ninty three cents payment awarded for June. I did not know Newsvine paid people, and in no way did I imagine that even if it did, I would deserve. how and why is it done...
oh, by the way, my pet peeve for now is the fact that last years teacher accepted words spelled "creatively", and now I must dock points for misspelled words..
They write sentences such as "I think I goned ther, but i aren't goned enimor".
maybe in first grade and you don't want them to
Well, to me, you maybe wouldn't count it off for points, but still put the correct spelling on the paper. I am working with 3rd graders, who first and second grade teacher thought that, so now it is shell shock to get it marked WRONG.
Lack of punctuation and/or capitalization where requried.
Improper use of punctuation (e.g., ending an interrogatory sentence with a period)
"New and improved", which are mutually exclusive.
"Very unique" - Something is either unique or it's not; there is no continuum.
"This needs to go in the dishwasher." - Inanimate objects do not have needs.
principal/principle
complimentary/complementary
As LunarTick mentioned above, verbing nouns. Specifically: "leverage" in lieu of exploit
More will of course spring to mind immediately after hitting Post Comment, but I'm going to do it anyway :-)
"as per"
"consensus of opinion"
When I hear people say "I seen ..." . It drives me crazy. Around here we also have a lot of "might would/might could/might should. "I might would buy one of those if I could afford it" "I might should go to the store today." "I might could be finished by 5." Or, how about, "I'm fixin' to ..."
Sometime we should talk about weird regional expressions. For example, where I'm from, if a woman is talking about her "outfit", she is referring to what she's wearing, but if a man says it, he's referring to what he's driving.
And in NY, it refers either to someone's drug equipment, or their gun:-)
Ain't got none...That one just sends a shiver down my spine.
the disappearance of adverbs
The thing is, American English is (one of the few, if not only, remaining) dynamic living languages left, and the simple fact is that it does constantly evolve over time.
That said, the current evolution seems (to me) more a case of ignorance than style, which is a pity.
Q: Are we not men?
A: We are Devo!
Scott dude, ...
My list...
Using textspeak when typing. Honestly, if you can't be bothered to type out the word for instead of 4, or great, not gr8... And calling yourself 133t means, quite frankly, that you're likley an idiot.
Relying on spell check rather than your brains... Spellcheck, but PROOFREAD.
Their once lived a lovely pear of woman in a forest cabin. In the cabin was a set of stares witch lead to a top story. On the top floor, were too rooms. Won was a bathroom and the other was a bedroom.
Don't make me use my psychic powers to make your head explode, please, Scott, I like your columns, and would miss them. ;D
I would, but then I'd have to chase down everyone who read it and explode their heads. Exhausting. One of 'em might take offense to something *I* post, y'see...
Hm... Well, maybe. I should warn you, exploding someone's head DOES require they actually have a functioning brain inside. Otherwise, the 'vine would be down a poster or two.
I wouldn't dream of pointing out to whom I'm referring... However, I'll say I avoid posting on the threads of brainless idiots whenever possible. :)
I wouldn't dream of pointing out to whom I'm referring
Whew!
Honestly, if someone takes it as a personal attack that it bugs me when people shorthand rather than type stuff out, they need more help than anybody here can give them. And I rather doubt that Tyler would smack me for pointing out to someone, directly, "Hey, I'm finding your posts difficult to read. For the sake of us born prior to the cell phone generation, could you please try to spell correctly, and type out all of your words? It would make your posts much more legible."
Or all bold... another pet peeve. :)
YES YOU ARE RT ABOUT THAT
Bold, caps, "RT", no period ... aieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Scott... that headache you feel starting between your eyeballs and about an inch back? That's the first sign of the exploding head thing happening...
bad grammar in advertising
Saw one that said: 'The FUNNEST vacation ever.'
My nose began to bleed. I hate that so much, it gives me energy.
I don't think the conversation would go that far- after the guy notices my bloody nose and asks after my health, I'd most likely introduce him to the same condition with my forehead, screaming, 'FUNNEST IS NOT A WORD! FUNNEST IS NOT A WORD!'
Also, I hate those who think 'a lot' and 'every day' are one word. 'Everyday,' used in context, means average or normal. Common usage is destroying the English language. George Carlin said it best when he said, ' @^% common usage!'
someone wrote a letter to the editor of our paper to comlain that Carlin's act was too vulgar.
And someone forced this person to the show at gunpoint, I assume?
My pet peeves are spelling related. 'loose' for 'lose' 'there' for 'their and they're'!!
Can't help it, my mom was an excellent secretary, and I now work in a library.
Scott/Tyler,
I have voted for this article three times and it doesn't seem to be taking, fyi.
Yup, just "posted comment/voted" and it didn't take again...
My grammar is not perfect. There are however, some things that do bother me.
I do not understand where the word "supposably" came from.
The people at my place of business put apostrophe s for every word that ends in s.
The word ask pronounced axe, et cetera excedra, and expresso espresso also bother me.
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