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Interview with A.J. Jacobs, Author of The Know-It-All

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Reading The Know-It-All was one of the most enjoyable literary experiences I have had in the past two years for five reasons:

1. I found the concept riveting: Author A.J. Jacobs challenged himself to read the multi-volume Encyclopedia Britannica from start to finish. I found myself cheering him on, getting more involved in the story the further he got into the alphabet.

2. The author and I share some similarities, from having fathers with the same name, Arnold, to both thinking, at some point, we were smart and can become smarter through some educational project.

3. I am sucker for a well -done concept novel (See #1 above), and I like this book for the same reason I loved Word Freak, in which Stephen Fastis of the Wall Street Journal explored the world of competitive Scrabble by seeing how good he could get at that game. In that case I was reading the last part on a plane, and after it landed I did not want to get off since I first wanted to see how it all turned out. Now that's dedication!

As with Word Freak, the author explores fascinating questions like where the blurry line is drawn between knowledge and trivia, information that is useful and that which is not, and considers the consequences if your hobby becomes an eccentricity. If you liked Word Freak or the documentary Word Wars, also about Scrabble, or Wordplay, about crossword puzzles, I think you will like this book.

4. The book had some of the most intriguing, supportive blurbs I have seen in recent months, most notably this gem from Jon Stewart of the Daily Show and America (The Book): "The Know-It-All is a hilarious book and quite an impressive achievement. I've always said, 'why doesn't someone put out a less complete version of the encyclopedia?' Well done, A.J."

5. The book has a great confessional quality to it, which reminds me a bit of the style of Toby Young, and not just because both have written for magazines. Both authors chronicle not only their adventures and their many instances of making an ass of themselves but also how it affects their family, friends and what others think of their deeds and misdeeds. Both also deal in their own way with the concept, later a fact, that they are going to become fathers and need to grow up.

I want to excerpt a few entries from the first half of the book:

P.T. Barnum: 'When he was eighty-one, P.T. Barnum fell gravely ill. At his request, a New York newspaper printed his obituary in advance so that he might enjoy it. That's brilliant. In fact, that could be a nice new revenue stream for newspapers – they could sell obits to people on their deathbeds. The encyclopedia is giving me lots of good ideas.'Book: 'The United Nations defines a book as a text that is at least forty-nine pages long. By that definition, the Britannica equals 683 books. Unsettling.'

Braille, Louis: 'Just as unsettling: the number of prodigies in the Britannica. Braille developed his writing system for the blind at age fifteen. Bentham — the one who later had himself muffified — was studying Latin at the age of four. (When I was four, I was studying the effects of shoving bananas up my nose.) At age five, Aleksandr Blog was writing memorable Russian poetry. If I had known about these whiz kids back when I thought I was the smartest boy in the world, I wonder if I would have seen them as compadres, or if it would have snapped me out of my dream.'Deseret News: I always thought the name of Utah's major newspaper was some sort of weird misspelling of the word "desert." But no, Deseret is the "land of the honeybee," according to the Book of Mormon. I guess I should have figured they would have caught a typo in the masthead after 154 years.

Scott Butki: I want to start by going back before you wrote the book. You said in the book that for a brief time in your childhood you thought you were a know-it-all genius. Was that part of the genesis of this book idea?

A.J. Jacobs: Absolutely. When I was a kid, I was under the bizarre delusion that I was the smartest boy in the world. As I got older, I realized this, sadly, was not the case. Far from it. So Operation Britannica was a way to at least bump up my IQ a couple of points.

Your dad also tried to read the Encyclopedia Britannica but stopped. Was that one reason you wanted to do it? Yes, my dad made it up to the middle of the letter B, around the word "boomerang," I think. I wanted to finish what he started and erase that black mark from our family history. I guess there was a little Oedipal competition going on. But my dad is too generous – he wasn't jealous or threatened, just happy I was showing an interest in his beloved encyclopedias.

: I found the relationship between your father and you touching and it didn't hurt that my dad was named Arnold. What did your dad and other family members think of the book?

A.J.: Another Arnold! Excellent. It means 'mighty as an eagle,' by the way. My dad was very supportive. I was most worried about the reaction of my brother-in-law, Eric, who is the Harvard-educated nemesis in my book. He called me and said, 'Yes, I come off like a jerk, but at least you said that I was moderately good-looking.' That's the key – appeal to their vanity.

Scott: Why just the Encyclopedia Britannica? I mean if you really wanted to be Mr. Know-It-All wouldn't you need to read dictionaries, memorize atlases, etc. Was that too much?

A.J.: It's a good point. And some people said I should do a sequel where I read the entire Oxford English Dictionary from A to Z (it's actually longer than the Britannica – 60 million words as compared to the Britannica's mere 44 million). But there was something clean and self-contained about just reading the one thing. I wanted to climb the Everest of knowledge, not the whole Himalayan chain.

At what point did this idea switch from personal project to book project? Were you stopping and writing entries all along the way?

I wanted to read the Britannica, but I knew from the beginning that it'd help me to have a tangible goal at the end – a book. If I didn't have a book deadline, I'd probably still be somewhere in the letter 'G.' I was writing entries as I went along – I wanted to give the book a journal-like feel.

Scott: Similar question for your next book – what is the idea behind the book and when did it switch from personal project to actual book?

A.J.: The next book is called The Year of Living Biblically, and it's about my attempt to follow the rules of the Bible as literally as possible – from the famous ones like the Ten Commandments and Be Fruitful and Multiply right on down to stoning adulterers and growing a huge beard. That one was always both a personal project and actual book.

Scott: Have you read Word Freak? In that book author Stephen Fastis (of the WSJ) interviews Scrabble players in an attempt to better his game. They both alternate between serious and humorous, the important and the arcane.

A.J.: Yes, I did read and enjoy Word Freak. I'm not nearly at his level of play, but I did memorize all the two-letter words to help my Scrabble game. I just learned that ZA (which means pizza) was added to the Scrabble Dictionary recently. So I hope to use that very soon.

Scott: Have you seen the movie Wordplay? I watched it while reading your book and since both address the crossword puzzle tournament I was just wondering your take on it. In your book you seem dismissive of crossword players but I bet they'd be equally dismissive of you.

A.J.: I haven't seen Wordplay yet. But I'd like to. I hope I wasn't too dismissive of them. I covet their knowledge of four-letter words with lots of vowels. I tried to make my portrayal of the tournament loving and gentle mocking, much like the chapter about my trip to the Mensa convention.

Scott: Have you read Toby Young's book(s)? Between his adventures in magazines and his talking about his wife's pregnancy in terms most people wouldn't use... well, his book came to mind as I read yours. I interviewed him previously.

A.J.: I actually haven't read Toby Young's books. I'd like to someday. Plus, I hear his book parties are great.

Scott: I want to ask you a question I asked him: How much did you let your wife read what you wrote and how much did you change the book because of that? Because, like him, you make yourself out to be quite an idiot, at times, which I find somewhat charming.

A.J.: I let her read the whole thing before submitting it. She did have veto power, but she didn't exercise it once. She's startlingly understanding.Some of Jacobs' excerpts from the second half of The Know-It-All:

More excerpts: Orgasm: They can be experienced from infancy. What? Did I orgasm when I was an infant? Did I smoke a tiny cigarette afterward?

Oyster: Oysters can change sex according to the temperature of the water. I always knew there was something emasculating about warm baths.

Poe, Edgar Allen: He married his cousin when she was Thirteen. Sort of the Jerry Lee Lewis of his day but with more interest in Gothic imagery.

Reproduction: The bandicoot male has a two-tipped penis, and the female a double-slotted vagina, so they can have a little orgy without sending out invitations.

Riot: You only need three rambunctious people to legally qualify as a riot. That's all. So Julie, our kid, and I could hold our very own riot.

Scott: What was your reaction to The New York Times review of your book by Joe Queenan, that was quite critical? When I just read it my reaction was that the reviewer was taking you way too seriously. But let me ask you for the record.

A.J.: Yes, I was surprised. I found it odd that the reviewer believed that I actually thought I was going to become the smartest person in the world, whereas I thought my book's absurdly hyperbolic subtitle might have been a tip-off. So I think your assessment is exactly right. Also, in the interest of Britannnica-esque accuracy, I should mention that The New York Times also ran a positive review by Janet Maslin.

(Jacobs also wrote a response to Queenan's review, titled, "I Am Not A Jackass," that was printed in the Times. It is one of the funniest things I have ever read in the New York Times.

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A.J.: Well, I knew I wasn't going to become Albert Einstein. Or even Alfred Einstein (Albert's cousin and a noted music historian in his own right).

I don't think knowledge and intelligence are the same thing. But after my journey, I've decided they are, in fact, distantly related. The metaphor that resonates with me is that knowledge is the fuel, and intelligence is the engine. The more knowledge you have, the easier it is to make connections and come up with creative solutions. At least that's what I tell myself.

Scott: You talk, in the entry about juggling, about how you wanted to have at least one major project, of the type that would garner you your own entry. Is this next book the chronicling of one such project?

A.J.: It certainly felt like a major project while I was doing it. It was probably even more challenging than the encyclopedia, which involved no uncomfortable facial hair growth. But as I said in that juggling entry, I'll never create a vaccine or open a trade route, so 'major' is a relative term.

Scott: Would you agree that this book, in addition to serving as an odd summary of the encyclopedia, also serves as a memoir of sorts?

A.J.: Yes, I wanted to make it a mix of Cliffs Notes to the encyclopedia and memoir. If you make the facts personal, I think — or hope — they are more interesting to readers. If I can relate 'Freud' to my relationship with my dad, or 'Kafka' to my relationship with my wife, then it's not just a collection of facts. There's a story to go along with it.

Scott: Would you recommend others duplicate your task?

A.J. Well, if you want to save a lot of time, you can read my book, of course. (Now available in paperback!) But I have had a few intrepid readers email me that they are going to give it a shot. One guy said he was going to read the Encyclopedia Judaica. There's a lot of fascinating stuff in the Britannica, but there is also 36 pages on Portuguese literature (no offense to the Portuguese, but nine or 10 pages would have done me just fine). So I wish them luck.

Scott: Are you still working at Esquire? How do you balance your magazine job and your book jobs?

A.J.: I'm still at Esquire. I balance it by having a very nice boss.

Scott: If you could recommend one letter, what would it be?

A.J. I'd have to go with 'Q.' First, it's so short. Just a couple of hundred pages. Second, it has another great two-letter word – QA, a type of Babylonian liquid measurement. I don't think it's in the Scrabble dictionary yet, but I'm lobbying for it.

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{"commentId":659230,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

If you dig knowledge or trivia or fun you will enjoy this book.

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Reply#1 - Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:47 AM EDT
{"commentId":667846,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

If you love trivia, knowledge or attempts to better yourself you should check out this book.

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Reply#2 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:09 PM EDT
{"commentId":673935,"authorDomain":"brianford"}

I'll have to look into this -- I thought there was a book about a guy who read an entire dictionary as well, but maybe I'm just thinking about this book.

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Reply#3 - Sun Apr 29, 2007 1:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":674183,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I'm not familiar with one reading a dictionary. There's this guy reading the encylopedia and he does
go through it alphabetically. If you like this one another winner is Word Freak.

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Reply#4 - Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:13 PM EDT
{"commentId":752639,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I need to check in with this author to see how his next book is coming along.
Does this sound like a fun book?

Scott: Similar question for your next book – what is the idea behind the book and when did it switch from personal project to actual book?

A.J.: The next book is called The Year of Living Biblically, and it's about my attempt to follow the rules of the Bible as literally as possible – from the famous ones like the Ten Commandments and Be Fruitful and Multiply right on down to stoning adulterers and growing a huge beard. That one was always both a personal project and actual book.

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Reply#5 - Sat Jun 2, 2007 1:55 PM EDT
{"commentId":1004278,"authorDomain":"MinnieApolis"}

I thought it sounded like an interesting project BUT now what does he DO with this information? You are - we are - responsible for what we know. How does anyone benefit if good information is not applied where it might be useful?
The other thought was of Mr. Memory, the key character in the classic film 'The 39 Steps.' For the author to become a Mr Memory, he would have to not only read the material, but be able to recite material upon prompting by a questioner at any time. I think we can safely assume that the author did not achieve this level(?)

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Reply#6 - Thu Sep 6, 2007 3:47 PM EDT
{"commentId":1005578,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Well, thats why you have to read the book. Trust me - you'll like it.

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    #6.1 - Fri Sep 7, 2007 7:23 AM EDT
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    {"commentId":1043866,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Newsweek has interviewed the author of the book.

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    Reply#7 - Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:49 PM EDT
    {"commentId":2102417,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    Jacobs has a book review in the New York Times on Sunday: nerds rule.

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      Reply#8 - Wed Jul 2, 2008 9:05 AM EDT
      {"commentId":9661501,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Received AJ Jacobs new book this week.

      Am going to do another two part interview with him. There is an excerpt of the book here. I'm going to invite you guys to join me in asking AJ questions both about the new book and his two prior books, which I loved and interviewed him about, the know-it-all (he read the entire encyclopedia brittanica) and The Year of Living Biblically (about, well, following as many of the bibles rules as possible)

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        Reply#9 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:35 AM EDT
        {"commentId":9674821,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        AJ is on Colbert tonite.

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          Reply#10 - Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:30 PM EDT
          {"commentId":10202015,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

          Found a nice video interview with Jacobs

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            Reply#11 - Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:03 PM EDT
            {"commentId":10334637,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

            My interview with AJ for his next book is now up - it is here at newsvine

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              Reply#12 - Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM EDT
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