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Two Late Idols: Kurt Vonnegut and Richard Feynman

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Richard Feynman and Kurt Vonnegut are two of my heroes and those are damn hard to find these days. Both are fascinating, smart and unique.

Feynman was a writer who managed to make this simple-minded reader really excited to read about science. I read with relish Feynman's two autobiographical books, Surely You're Joking, Dr. Feynman and What Do You Care What People Think, when they came out.

The latter contained Feynman's explanation of how he discovered, and announced to the world, why the Challenger space shuttle blew up. He was the sole scientist on a panel ordered to investigate the accident and he took that role seriously. I actually stayed up all night reading his account, much to the shock of my parents, who thought I was reading a mystery, not something resembling a scientific treatise.

His Challenger report is included, which ends with this comment:

"NASA owes it to the citizens from which it asks support to be frank, honest, and informative, so that these citizens can make the wisest decisions for the use of their limited resources. For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled."

Sadly, Feynman died in 1988, just as non-scientists around the world were learning, via Surely You're Joking, about what a great guy he was. His new book is a collection of essays, speeches and interviews by Feynman. The topics range from Galileo to Los Alamos to evolution. Feynman is a brilliant man and yet so human, a man who spent some of his time making the bomb at Los Alamos learning how to crack safes and get past censors so he could correspond by mail with his ailing wife. In these books he thinks out loud about his role in making the bomb, about life and death and other matters.

A sample:

"I have a friend who's an artist and he's sometimes taken a view which I don't agree with very well. He'll hold up a flower and say, 'Look how beautiful it is,' and I'll agree, I think. And he says, 'You see, I as an artist can see how beautiful this is, but you, as a scientist, oh, take this all apart and it becomes a dull thing.

"And I think that he's kind of nutty. First of all, the beauty that he sees is available to other people and to me, too,I believe, although I might not be quite as refined aesthetically as he is; but I can appreciate the beauty of a flower. At the same time I see much more about the flower that he sees. I can imagine the cells in there, the complicated actions inside which also have a beauty....

"Also, the processes, the fact that the colors in the flower evolved in order to attract insects to pollinate it is interesting - it means that insects can see the color. It adds a question: Does this aesthetic sense also exist in the lower forms? Why is it aesthetic? All kinds of interesting questions which shows that a scientific knowledge only adds to the excitement and mystery and the awe of a flower. It only adds; I don't understand how it can subtract."

Feynman taught me that science can be interesting and that scientists do indeed think about the implications of their work.

Meanwhile, Kurt Vonnegut showed me that life is indeed weird and absurd and hilarious, and that there is nothing wrong with realizing that and pointing it out to others. His writing has gone down in quality in recent years, but some of his early works remain classics.

This new book began as a collection of 90-second interludes broadcast on WNYC public radio. In them, he uses the literary device of pretending he is going into the afterlife and coming back with interviews.

He reports on meeting with John Brown (still mad about that execution thing), James Earl Ray (who says he never would have shot Martin Luther King if he knew it would turn King into a martyr), and others. At one point he attempts to interview William Shakespeare, trying to get answers to centuries-old questions. But Shakespeare lets loose with remarks that leave Vonnegut tongue-tied.

Vonnegut calls his own work controlled near-death experiences, which are done with the help of his pal, Dr. Jack Kevorkian. The interviews must end, though, when Kevorkian is jailed for his real, successful attempts at helping people die.

But overall the book leaves a flat taste in this reader's mouth. Some jokes just aren't funny, most of the interviews are, at most, two pages and the entire book is about 78 pages. The reader is left wanting more. But if this all Vonnegut can give at this point, then it's still better than nothing.

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I may be writing a separate tribute on Vonnegut

I just wrote about him for some writer's advice (see #6)

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Reply#1 - Thu Apr 12, 2007 1:15 AM EDT
{"commentId":639281,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Let's fix that link.

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#1.1 - Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:45 PM EDT
{"commentId":10535602,"authorDomain":"netgrits"}

My man, Scoop.

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    #1.2 - Fri Nov 6, 2009 10:08 PM EST
    {"commentId":10537580,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    you rang?

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      #1.3 - Sat Nov 7, 2009 1:35 AM EST
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      {"commentId":639229,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Any other Vonnegut and Feynman fans?

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      Reply#2 - Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:23 PM EDT
      {"commentId":642174,"authorDomain":"marita"}

      I could only get into his writing after I had read about his life. Overall he's had a rich, "non-linear" life - in that way, I could relate to him and really started enjoying his point of view.

      You are a writer? What do you write? I used to write short "clips" every once in a while, some funny stuff and some cynical or satirist stuff, just to get it off my chest. Also got into song writing a bit, which was extremely satisfying.

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      Reply#3 - Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:46 PM EDT
      {"commentId":643197,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
      You are a writer? What do you write? I

      It's easier to ask what I DON't write. And that would be... sports. I think thats' the only topic I've not written about in the last year.

      Click on my column to see some of the things I've written about.

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      Reply#4 - Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:13 PM EDT
      {"commentId":643854,"authorDomain":"marita"}

      You really do write about everything! And it also seems like you do read about everything as well! 100 books a year? I'm lucky if I'm able to find one or two books a year that I enjoy reading! Movies, that's another story - I can't get enough of them!

      I do like the idea of your new "ask Scott" feature and will fire off a question to you soon...

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      Reply#5 - Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:38 PM EDT
      {"commentId":724415,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Still waiting...:0

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        #5.1 - Tue May 22, 2007 3:28 AM EDT
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        {"commentId":643885,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        Sounds excellent. Thanks.

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        Reply#6 - Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:04 AM EDT
        {"commentId":725556,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
        Scott (Scoop) ButkiDeleted
        {"commentId":917223,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        I miss both of these guys very much.

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          Reply#8 - Thu Aug 2, 2007 2:56 PM EDT
          {"commentId":1931753,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

          This weekend I began watching the first season of Numb3rs and I think I'm hooked. I've seen the show before but never in sequential order and I didn't know until recently that they are using real math. Last night I watched the commentary for the pilot and the actor who plays the head geek said that in preparing for his role he listened to the lost tapes of Richard Feynman and said he even cribbed part of a line from Feynman (the line was "let's do an elementary exercise and by that I don't mean it's elemental") which the actor shortened to 'Let's do an elementary exercise" (which robs the sentence of the best part) but when the actor said that line was a shout-out to Feynman I was quite pleased.
          I may do a full review of season one depending on if there is interest (by others and by me)

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            Reply#9 - Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:13 AM EDT
            {"commentId":1933231,"authorDomain":"sphinx"}
            I read with relish Feynman's two autobiographical books, Surely You're Joking, Dr. Feynman and What Do You Care What People Think, when they came out.

            Dude, Feynman was the shiznit. He's regarded as a demigod in physics circles, at least among students.

            O Americano, outra vez!

            I'm glad you like Numb3rs. The later seasons lose a bit of the initial luster, as they gradually shift focus away from the crimefighting and towards interpersonal relationships, but it's a great series. I'm glad crime dramas are branching out from forensics.

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            Reply#10 - Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
            {"commentId":1933493,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

            Did you read his books? They rock. I still recommend them to people all the time.

            Good to see you, Jack. Are you drinking your sweet tea to deal with this heat wave?

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            #10.1 - Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:40 PM EDT
            {"commentId":1934075,"authorDomain":"sphinx"}

            My father was an astrophysicist, so he gave me Feynman's books to read when I was 8. Very fun, very entertaining, very smart guy.

            Good to see you, Jack. Are you drinking your sweet tea to deal with this heat wave?

            Nah, A/C and water. Good to see you, too.

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            #10.2 - Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
            {"commentId":1938535,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

            Hope you're not drinking the water FROM the a/c.

            Until I read Feynman I had all physicists pegged as boring geeks. Now I know better.

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            #10.3 - Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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            {"commentId":5246318,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

            Interesting. This guy suggests something I've wondered, namely if Richard Feynman had aspergers.

            Mind you it's just a theory but it's intriguing.

            We're also discussing here a show with a characters with aspergers.

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            Reply#11 - Sun Feb 8, 2009 9:54 AM EST
            {"commentId":5268722,"authorDomain":"superman2001"}

            The only thing I know about Kurt Vonnegut is that the producers of LOST have used some of his stuff in the show. I can't remember off the top of my head exactly what, but they've referenced some of his work in the past.

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            Reply#12 - Mon Feb 9, 2009 5:24 PM EST
            {"commentId":5269259,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

            Vonnegut is amazing. I think they showed one of the characters reading one of his books.

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              #12.1 - Mon Feb 9, 2009 5:50 PM EST
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              {"commentId":10422441,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

              A new collection of Vonnegut stories is coming out.

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                Reply#13 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 9:03 AM EST
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