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Writing Down the Bones - Week Two

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The topic will be different but the rules are the same as in the first week. In short, a topic is announced and,upon reading that topic, you are to write
for 10 minutes in whatever style you want. You can write poetry, prose, an ode,
an essay, whatever.

There are just two catches:
1) You can't stop to edit. That defeats the purpose which is to block your inhibitions and just see what develops.
2) Provide positive constructive criticism and feedback for the others posting.

If you feel the need to read others' submissions before writing your own I won't slap your hand - not even virtually - but you are technically cheating because you would be, at least subconsciously, starting to think
about the topic.

I started last week's article partially to gauge if there was any interest. The answer
seems to be a resounding yes.

In response I've also started two other writing exercises/experiments, one in which
we will together write a thriller and one where we will write a fairy tale.

Ok, on with the exercise

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The topic will be chosen in six minutes....

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Reply#1 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 10:24 PM EDT
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What kind of hellish torture is this? I'm not coming back for fifteen.

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#1.1 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 10:32 PM EDT
{"commentId":632470,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Plus, you're late.

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#1.2 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 10:32 PM EDT
{"commentId":632614,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I'm on Scott time which is 15 minutes behind "regular" time.

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#1.3 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:58 PM EDT
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{"commentId":632469,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Ok, the topic is.... hold on while I thumb randomly through a magazine...

Confessions.

So this can be about a confession... it can be a confession itself... it can be whateve
thought or memory is triggered by the word.

Ready...set.... go....

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Reply#2 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 10:32 PM EDT
{"commentId":632497,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

10:32 -
Bless me, father, for I have sinned. I'd go into details but I only have ten minutes here
so let's just say that I've done some coveting, I've done some ogling, I've done some
premarital sex and, oh, and I stopped believing in organized religions.

Other than that, I've been good. How've you been?

Oh, wait, I forgot - this is one of those conversations where only one person shares.

It's been so long since I've been to the confessional. How long? Do I have to tell you?

What's that?You can look it up if you really wanted to know? What - you have some kind
of google search for lapsed catholics in that confessional booth? I was wondering what
that glow was coming from your booth. I'm just glad it's a computer and not a tv because
it'd be kind of disturbing if you were watching, say, the L Word in there while people
are confessing to things out here.

What's that? Do I remember my first confession? Yes I do and you know why? It's
because I had spiritual performance anxiety. I didn't think that the sins I had to
confess were all that great compared to your usual fare. I mean, it's hard as a kid to
compete with those in here confessing about sex and violence... and here I am telling
you that I didn't take out the trash or do the dishes. I seriously considered throwing in a big
sin like sleeping with the mayor's wife or something just to try to bolster my reputation but
I wasn't sure if word would get out on the street.

Looks like we have just one last minute, father, so can I tell you one thing I've never
confessed to? Because I'm not sure if it counts as a sin or not. When I was little, when
we went to the grocery store I would see the candy in the bins and I'd grab some and
eat them and I'd do it when mom wasn't looking. I thought it was very thoughtful of
the grocery store owners to give away free candy like that. By the time I realized
it probably wasn't free I stopped. So was that a retroactive sin or how does that work?

Hmm, guess I shouldn't have saved that question for the end because I'm sorry, I
really have to run. I'm scheduled to make a confession at a baptist church across
town in 20 minutes and at other churches later in the day. I figure this way I'll
cover all the bases.

One last question. What's it's like being called Father when you're not actually one... A father, I mean.
And when you hear the phrase, "Who's your daddy?" do you feel any kind of reaction to that?

Hey, why you slamming that door shut. That's rude. Maybe it's you that should be confessing.

F- this , I'm outta here.

Oh, pardon my language, father. Can we just take a rain check on the profanity sin and confession?

Thanks.

10:42

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Reply#3 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 10:54 PM EDT
{"commentId":632550,"authorDomain":"gase"}

I confess that I have no guilt.

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#3.1 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:30 PM EDT
{"commentId":632577,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
spiritual performance anxiety

lol, that's funny.

I used to sneak candy out of the Brach's bins too. Then my brother told me it was stealing, so I stopped.

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#3.2 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:43 PM EDT
{"commentId":632592,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I was afraid if I told my mom what I did she'd make me pay for it or throw it up.

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#3.3 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:49 PM EDT
{"commentId":632736,"authorDomain":"sheep"}

I was a freak: never stole candy, but always grabbed a handful of fresh green beans. Still do. We Jews don't have confessionals, instead, all our guilt comes from our mothers. When I finally told her about it long after I was out of the house, she agreed that I was a freak. I felt much better afterwards. :)

Nice piece, though. Good timing, and a funny payoff. Just two quibbles: do Baptists have confessionals? and, I would've had the priest yawn at the irreverent (ir-Reverend?) question since he's probably heard more wiseass remarks than you or I could ever imagine. :) Everything else after still works either way.

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#3.4 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:40 AM EDT
{"commentId":632972,"authorDomain":"merrydeath"}

great narrative Sbutki. You raise some interesting questions about the importance of confession to one who is omniscient/omnipresent.

Also, I love the creative glimpse into what is really going on on the other side of the confessional wall.

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#3.5 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:46 AM EDT
{"commentId":633049,"authorDomain":"VictoriaRose"}

You might want to check out the Saw Doctors, and their lovely song "Bless Me Father". It always picks me up, no matter what mood I'm in.

Bless me Father for I have sinned
She had big brown eyes, silky skin
Bless me Father for I have sinned
Father, you have no idea what you missed - Oh Oh!

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#3.6 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:24 AM EDT
{"commentId":633306,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I don't know if other religions have confessions. I didn't realize I didn't know that until I typed it. So yeah that part is probably wrong.

Ok, you stole green beans!? You ARE a freak. (Newsvine topic idea: List five ways you are a freak. You already have your #1 answer.)

Victoria, Merry and Evano thanks for the responses and feedback.

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#3.7 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:58 AM EDT
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{"commentId":632507,"authorDomain":"gase"}

"Oh my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended Thee."

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Reply#4 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 10:57 PM EDT
{"commentId":632517,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

9:57p.m.

I have a million and one things to confess. I remember my first confession. Learning the complicated procedure for doing it, entering that dark box, sliding open the window, "Forgive me Father, for I have sinned, this is my first confession," and trying to drum up something. I sat on the roof outside my brother's window and looked at the stars even though I knew I wasn't supposed to. I called my brother a jerk. I had hateful feelings towards my brother. I stole a cookie right before dinner.

I don't think I ever made a second confession. I never memorized the Hail Mary, although I probably should have had it down after doing my first penance. Maybe it was two cookies. Maybe I hit my brother.

I have three children lost in three different ways. And I miss them all equally.

I still get crushes on cute boys, and I miss being able to do something about it, not because I can't but because I'm married and I shouldn't.

This is harder than I thought, because I feel like I should confess some big thing but there isn't any big thing. Of course there IS, but it's mine. I haven't murdered anybody, but I've wanted to.

I don't write as much as I should. Writing keeps me sane. Maybe I want to be crazy. Maybe there's moments when I think it would be pleasant to live in a mental institution, although I'd miss the alcohol.

The dark booth calls to me, though, when I do attend church. Weddings. Christenings. The last Christening I attended was the one for my goddaughter. We went to mass first, but the church itself was under construction, so mass was held in the school gym. There was no confessional there. The baptism itself was held in some other random little room, probably for small funeral masses. No confessional there, either. But Jesus hung suspended over the basketball hoop, and I spent that hour wondering why a cage had not been built around him, like the cages around the clocks, protected against errant middle-schooler basketballs. Maybe basketballs miraculously don't hit Jesus, I don't know.

I find it funny that the word confession immediately made me think of the confessional. There's lots of things to say that have nothing to do with those dim musty booths. In movies, I always get a little jolt when there's a scene in a booth. Something about the way the screen casts shadows across the faces of the confessor and the absolver. No one can absolve me of my sins but me. Asking someone to assign me a series of prayers to say makes no sense. I suppose it gives rest and assurance to some. If I'm wrong about Jesus and God, then I would hope they'll take me anyway, forgive me for being wrong.

What the hell is going on here?

I have some random confessions.

I hate cleaning. Hate it with a passion. Despise it. Put it off as long as possible. I am a procrastinator of the nth degree. I am a professional procrastinator. I can put things off so long, they do themselves.

I love the ocean. That is where I feel peace. Whenever I get to Florida, I drop my bags at the door and march straight across the condo to the sliding glass doors, fling back the curtains, slide open the door and step out, all in one long step, not pausing for a moment, just keep walking until I've gone through the gate around the pool, down the steps to the sand, to the edge of the water, and there I am reunited with my soul. I confess I lived in the same place as my soul.

10:07 p.m.

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Reply#5 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:07 PM EDT
{"commentId":632521,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

I'm always kind of amazed at what comes out when I stop thinking and just let my fingers talk.

It should be "I confess I wish I lived in the same place..." at the end there.

I also confess that I was supposed to come back in fifteen minutes, but I had to go make my bed, because I took all the sheets off this morning to wash them and never put fresh sheets on the bed, and yadda yadda.

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#5.1 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:11 PM EDT
{"commentId":632623,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
Maybe there's moments when I think it would be pleasant to live in a mental institution, although I'd miss the alcohol.

What? The drugs won't be good enough?

That's a hilarious, sharp insight?
Me, I've wished I was in an accident and hospitalized just so I can have the time off from crazy life stuff - work, school, etc. - Except I don't want the whole pain part.

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#5.2 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:07 AM EDT
{"commentId":632744,"authorDomain":"sheep"}

I loved the part about Jesus as a basketball repellent. I wonder if any teams have tried that? Your part about your connection with the ocean was lovely. I'm going to Florida in a couple of weeks to see my folks, but my experience will be very different: I refuse to leave the airconditioning for any longer than it takes to get between a building and a car. If my parents didn't live there, you'd never catch me at that latitude! I'm pretty much a Greenland-in-the-winter kind of guy.

And... I like the "mistake" you made in the last sentence. It gives it some resonance, demands some thought, yet still yields something like the meaning you intended. I wouldn't touch it.

As far as the mental hospital thing: I asked my shrink what I'd have to do to get into a mental hospital for a couple of weeks -- just, like Scott says, for some time off from life. He quoted me this, from Joseph Heller's Catch-22:

There was only one catch and that was Catch-22, that specified that a concern for one's own safety in the face of dangers that were real and immediate was the process of a rational mind. Orr was crazy and could be grounded. All he had to do was ask; and as soon as he did, he would no longer be crazy and would have to fly more missions. Orr would be crazy to fly more missions and sane if he didn't, but if he was sane, he had to fly them. Yossarian was moved very deeply by the absolute simplicity of the clause of Catch-22 and let out a respectful whistle.

"That's some catch, that Catch-22," he observed.

"It's the best there is," Doc Daneeka replied.

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#5.3 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:59 AM EDT
{"commentId":632856,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Thanks for your comments, evano. And that Catch-22 quote gives me something to think about.

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#5.4 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:04 AM EDT
{"commentId":632981,"authorDomain":"merrydeath"}
down the steps to the sand, to the edge of the water, and there I am reunited with my soul

that gave me chills.

Jesus on the basketball hoop made me laugh out loud. I bet he gets hit with basketballs and people feel bad. It reminds me of a time when I lived in Louisville (huge basketball town) and apparently the UofL team (or UK, I don't remember) was in the final four. The local eccentric newspaper had a cover-picture of Jesus holding a basketball. It caused all kinds of outrage. (*rolls eyes*)

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#5.5 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:52 AM EDT
{"commentId":633004,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Jesus would totally have played basketball! lol

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#5.6 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:59 AM EDT
{"commentId":633679,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Re: Jesus and the basketball.

One time I was working with a kid in day care at the Unitarian church I attend. For Unitarians the closest thing they have to a cross, a special symbol, is the chalice. There was a poster of a chalice on the wall. So this boy and I are playing catch and he invents a new sport which involves bouncing the ball off the wall. And then on his third or fourth bounce he bounces the ball onto the chalice poster.
I didn't know what to say. He's damned to hell? Well, we don't believe in hell.
I told him not to hit that.
And you know kids – there is nothing more appealing than doing that which they are told not to do.
And so it was that when his mom appeared 30 minutes later he showed her a new game he'd invented which I called Chaliceball. The goal was to hit the chalice with the ball. He was pretty good at it. Best damn chaliceball player I know, I'll tell you what.

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#5.7 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:36 PM EDT
{"commentId":633688,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

re: catch 22
Here's the Iraq version of Catch 22

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#5.8 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:39 PM EDT
{"commentId":634416,"authorDomain":"gase"}

I have three children lost in three different ways. And I miss them all equally.

VB, I grieve for your children and my two sons. They are not lost.

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#5.9 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:51 PM EDT
{"commentId":634532,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

True. They're not truly lost.

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#5.10 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:11 PM EDT
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{"commentId":632557,"authorDomain":"gase"}

Very cool, VB. You are one courageous woman. But you pay the price.

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Reply#6 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:32 PM EDT
{"commentId":632580,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Tell me about it. Still thinking about what you said in the other thread.

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#6.1 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:44 PM EDT
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{"commentId":632616,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

The more writers the better and here's my personal promise that anyone who posts
a submission gets a vote.

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Reply#7 - Mon Apr 9, 2007 11:59 PM EDT
{"commentId":632625,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

In a private community I belong to we have a topic devoted to confessions. Everyone takes turns confessing whatever they feel needs confessing that day and one person absolves them of their
sins or misdeeds. If there is interest I'll take on the role of the observer. I even have the perfect photo for it.

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Reply#8 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:09 AM EDT
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03:18

Lisa S., wherever you are, I have a confession. Sure we were friends at home when we were younger, playing house with you and me as Mommy and Daddy and my little sister as our daughter and our little brothers as the dogs, and sure we walked to school together sometimes, and I was never mean to you and I never let my friends in junior high or high school make fun of you without telling them that you were okay... but I never told you about the one thing I remember most about you.

I wasn't as clique-ey as most of our high school, but you just weren't cool enough -- always wearing the wrong kinds of clothes that your mother got from Sears, always leaving when we decided on getting drunk or high, always following rules and doing your homework on time. You lectured me often about how I was @!$%#ing up, how I was so smart and so un-focused, how I really needed to grow up before I wound up hurting myself, like in one of the five cars I totaled in my my first two years of driving. You were right.

I know you were focused. Schoolwork, honor society, yearbook, student council -- I was on all those things, too-- in name only. While you were inside at chorus rehearsal, or cropping photos for the school paper, or typing the poems for the literary journal, I was out in the woods with David B. and Danny H. and Marci H. getting high before second period. While you were out practicing with the field hockey team, I was watching Luke and Laura and their problems with the weather control machine.

But, I still thought of you, and I still do, especially because of one spring afternoon when I'd cut out of school just to hang out in my room and listen to nothing -- no teachers, no friends, no parents, no music. I practiced juggling my attention from sound to sound: from the birds chirping for their babies, to the wind in the woods, to the faraway sound of cheers on the football field, to car with radios blasting passing on the highway, and then I heard something strange and lovely which caused all those sounds to cascade away as the juggler stumbled.

I don't know much about opera -- the only one I've ever seen performed was the one whose name I don't remember in which you were part of the chorus at Lincoln Center when your Indiana college performed there sometime in freshman or sophomore year. So, I'll never know what it was you were singing, but it didn't matter. I thrilled to the sound of you walking home from school, singing the opera you'd been practicing, your clear soprano voice radiating much farther than you suspected, so that you and I shared that moment alone, apart.

Thirty years later, I can still hear that beautiful, lonely sound.

03:29 -- a minute over, sort of... maybe not, since I didn't look at the second hand? And did I cheat if I corrected two spelling errors before I posted?

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Reply#10 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:29 AM EDT
{"commentId":632858,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

evano, that was beautiful! I loved how you used the sounds to move the story forward, to set up the space of things.

Lovely and bittersweet. Nicely done.

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#10.1 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:11 AM EDT
{"commentId":633009,"authorDomain":"merrydeath"}

very cool. It's a beautiful reminder of how our lives are a collection of our experiences and how beauty can reach out an touch us at unexpected times. I love your wistful prose. :)

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#10.2 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:02 AM EDT
{"commentId":633685,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Evano – Yes that's cheating but since the topic is confession I'll just find a way to make you do penance.
Seriously that was beautiful – I kept waiting eagerly to hear what it was you still thought about her. Was it intentional to wait until the last paragraph to share that? Because it was great foreshadowing and anticipation building and then caught me totally off guard because for whatever reason I wasn't expecting an opera confession.

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#10.3 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:38 PM EDT
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13:28

why should I write on confessions? not being a Christian, I've never been to church so my understanding of a confession is totally different to what the majority here understand by the term. Oh, i rememebr, I;ll confess to my father through this column. Like the time when I was about 7 and was rude to my mother. and when he slapped me softly on the cheek. and how I thought of rubbiung a slice of lemon to make the wound swell up. and the look on his place when I confronted him later with a very swollen cheek red and raw. he thought he had overdone it. I never told him that I had smeard some lime to make it red and raw. To this day, he must feel guilty when in actual fact, I had turned in a moment at that time into an actor. Suffuice to say that I never got the same treatmet again. managed to get away with murder. not literally, you hear. just as a metaphor. I know I;m doing all sorts of stupid things here with punctutatuion and grammar and spell check. but isn't that the whoel point oif this exercsie. just write as it arrives in your mind. no processing. unlike processesd cheese.

talking about cheese, that red cheek at 7 taught me a few lessons. the effect of doing something nasty to make someone else feel guilty. The guilt actually stays with you for a far longer time. Perhaps time to own up to that and say "sorry, dad, I confess that I was seeking attention for my sins, it really was not your doing. Hope I have turend a better person for it." There, that says it all.

What else? I think the whole point of confession in a Christian sense is good if it can be turned into more of a public arena. Like what we are doing here. It takes a whole lot guts to do it in the open that in a private audience with the ... whoever.

Oops. my time's up

13:38

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Reply#11 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:38 AM EDT
{"commentId":632906,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

It's funny that two people who have responded so far claim to have left the church, yet both immediately went to the subject of the confessional booth.

Anywho, I loved this:

I think the whole point of confession in a Christian sense is good if it can be turned into more of a public arena. Like what we are doing here. It takes a whole lot guts to do it in the open that in a private audience with the ... whoever.

Absolutely true.

We are, in a sense, both anonymous and public here, making it easier to make confessions like these. And any time we do, we are making ourselves a whole lot LESS anonymous.

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#11.1 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:53 AM EDT
{"commentId":632923,"authorDomain":"raatkiraani"}
that two people who have responded so far claim to have left the church

Not sure if you were referring to me Viki. I have never been a Christian. Born a Hindu, although my belief system has evolved to something beyond any of the established religions.

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#11.2 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:08 AM EDT
{"commentId":632935,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

I meant myself and Scott.

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#11.3 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:20 AM EDT
{"commentId":633015,"authorDomain":"merrydeath"}
how I thought of rubbiung a slice of lemon to make the wound swell up

I did not know that. Amazing what you can learn from other people's heartfelt confessions isn't it.

Seriously though, I agree that actions done to induce guilt in another often result in more guilt in one's self.

Good essay. :)

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#11.4 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:06 AM EDT
{"commentId":633084,"authorDomain":"raatkiraani"}

cheers merrydeath. Liked yours too. As for the lemon trick, to this day, I do not know how I knew that at the time.

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#11.5 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:42 AM EDT
{"commentId":633693,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Raat –first, an apology. It didn't even occur to me that I'd be putting non-christian into a spot with this topic. It was chosen randomly, though and I didn't realize most would become confessionals as opposed to just confessions.

I know I;m doing all sorts of stupid things here with punctutatuion and grammar and spell check. but isn't that the whoel point oif this exercise

Yes.

I had no idea limes had that effect. See, who says you can't learn things – besides porn things – on the Internet?

I'd love to hear you elaborate on this idea below that you were sharing when you had to stop –

What else? I think the whole point of confession in a Christian sense is good if it can be turned into more of a public arena. Like what we are doing here. It takes a whole lot guts to do it in the open that in a private audience with the ... whoever.
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#11.6 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:41 PM EDT
{"commentId":635191,"authorDomain":"raatkiraani"}

Hey Scott - apology not accepted 'cos you did nothing wrong. In keeping to the spirit of the exercise, I wrote what sprung up. You did not put me on the spot - it was good to be forced to think laterally about my interpretation of a term against what may be more commonly held. Root difference is cultural and the exercise has brought the challenge of spanning cultures and interpretations when using language, especially on the net. I saw a lot of value in the exercise.

Let me consider your suggestion - can't keep up with your pace of feeding and seeding but perhaps it could become a focal point for an article. Will need some time to mull it over - vowed to steer clear of politics and religion when I signed up on the Vine.

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#11.7 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:11 AM EDT
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{"commentId":632959,"authorDomain":"merrydeath"}

9:30

shoot. I'm later. I'm sorry. I must confess - I was busy yesterday and didn't see the new topic until this morning. confession huh?

As a minister, I see confession as a religious movement - It is both a liturgical movement that happens in the context of worship and I movement of the soul. The prayer of confession happens in our worship services after we have gathered (the call to worship) and before we receive the Word (the sermon). This is not a random placement of one more prayer in the service...no....it is very specifically placed to allow us to let go of that which is dark in order to fully hear the light of the Word. Without acknowledging our 'sin' first, we bring extra baggage to the sermon. The Prayer of Confession often follows a very generic pattern - oh, we're sorry God for not being everything you want us to be, we are sorry that we don't do what you tell us to do. When writing a prayer of confession, it is difficult to write one that will be specific but not too specific. If a minister has a person in the congregation who has committed adultury (for example) - it would be inappropriate to ask the whole congregation to 'confess' - I am sorry for cheating on my spouse. However, it might be okay to say - we have sinned God, we know that you have been faithful to the convenant but we occasionally fall short of your intentions.

Personally, I like to write prayers of confession that are themeatically related to the Word for the day, the scripture, the sermon, the hymns...

9:40

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Reply#12 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:40 AM EDT
{"commentId":632964,"authorDomain":"merrydeath"}

wow. that 10 minutes went really fast. I didn't get the chance to say that confession is an essential part of human relationship even beyond the context of worship. It is an action that opens us up to Grace and Pardon in our daily lives from regular people we encounter. In confessing, we admit that we aren't perfect - that we've failed at something and possibly hurt someone else. The act of confession gives that person an opportunity to respond.

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#12.1 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:43 AM EDT
{"commentId":632978,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Merrydeath, that was really nice.

I need to start coming to your church.

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#12.2 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:50 AM EDT
{"commentId":633703,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}
shoot. I'm later. I'm sorry. I must confess

You're not late, silly. The topic is up all week so people can share all week.

You need to start having Internet-based services so Vicky and I can come. I didn't realize you were a minister. May I ask of what faith?
I really like the explanation about the reasons for the placement of the confession in the order of the service.

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#12.3 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 2:43 PM EDT
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{"commentId":633315,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

For what it's worth I'm unitarian now and I hear people all the time griping about their past faiths.

I'm feeling like crap today - a combination of pushing myself too hard and emotional upheaval - so I'm going to post less for the next day or so.

But I'm going to go take you guys to bed - er, to read your posts in bed on my laptop, with the cable modem unplugged - and will post responses later.

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Reply#13 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:02 PM EDT
{"commentId":633969,"authorDomain":"aprilbd"}

confession means to tell your sins
and hope for forgiveness
which means you'd better be sorry

for when you made love to your boyfriend
even though it was terrific
you'd better be sorry

and when you told a lie to a friend
because her new haircut really was atrocious
how dare you lie to her like that?
ask God to forgive the lying heart

black and white the pages of the Bible black and white the issues, they are not
black and white the garments of the priest
I am not Catholic, I have no right

my parents were born-again, meaning born more than once
born into church so they could escape where they were really born
poor in Brooklyn

they taught me the fear of God, of hell, the fear that fuels confession
and though I do not confess
I fear still...

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Reply#14 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:34 PM EDT
{"commentId":634328,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Wow, April! That really spoke to me. Very nice.

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#14.1 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:44 PM EDT
{"commentId":634635,"authorDomain":"sheep"}

confession means to tell your sins
and hope for forgiveness
which means you'd better be sorry

for when you made love to your boyfriend
even though it was terrific
you'd better be sorry

That was wonderful, April. Beautifully simple, direct language, brief and austere. Yet it perfectly encapsulates all the contradictions of religious confession. Can we ever truly be sorry for moments of joy? Should we?

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#14.2 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:01 PM EDT
{"commentId":635737,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Excellent. Very elagant and eloquent.

Why would you be - or were you (depending on whether this was true) - sorry you made love to your boyfriend? Oh, you mean because of that whole sin thing?

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#14.3 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:14 PM EDT
{"commentId":635991,"authorDomain":"aprilbd"}

The poem is not entirely based on reality, but yes, premarital sex is "living in sin."

Thank you all for + comments :)

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#14.4 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:50 PM EDT
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{"commentId":634260,"authorDomain":"yasmin"}

So like, what if I want to use mine for my entry in LVS, huh? ::laughs:: I can post it here and then maybe edit it

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Reply#15 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:52 PM EDT
{"commentId":634330,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Shh, we won't tell! Though I leave that up to Scott.

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#15.1 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:44 PM EDT
{"commentId":634571,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I'll just pretend I didn't read that.

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#15.2 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:34 PM EDT
{"commentId":634622,"authorDomain":"yasmin"}

::laughs::

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#15.3 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:58 PM EDT
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{"commentId":634270,"authorDomain":"iamzach"}

the first time i went to confession was in the second grade. catholic school. church every friday morning at 7am, huge, dark and cavernous, felt miles and miles underground. my small-for-my-age frame could almost feel the tons and tons of earth above me. really it was on a streetcorner in medium-town wisconsin. the confessional itself, confessionals really, three of them, along the wall to my left when i entered the scary cavechurch, they were like person-sized shoeboxes. i imagine the elaborately carved wooden grilles we talked through doubled as airholes so we wouldn't suffocate to death.

i never did anything bad back then. i was terrified of just about everything, and also a big fan of order, cleanliness, and everything else that didn't make any sense for a secondgrader to be concerned with. went to sleep when i was told, ate my all my food, took my baths, etc etc. so i just made stuff up when sitting in that spooky shoebox. i stole a cookie or i didn't eat all my vegetables, hid them under my napkin instead, or i pulled my sister's hair. what was i supposed to do? i couldn't just sit there and say nothing. i tried that and got some bizarre talking-to from a nun about how we're all sinners and in order to be forgiven we had to confess these sins, i didn't really understand it, mostly because i was thinking of going home and watching Transformers, mostly because i'd already decided this sinner stuff was boring and therefore probably more for grownups than for me.

dad took me out of catholic school the next year. i'd have to visit the shoebox a few more times throughout my teens, a couple times in my early 20s. visiting grandma, who was in many ways more pious than the pope, rest her soul, always involved a trip to Holy Name. she was aware of my poor catholic attendance record, her reasoning for sending me straight to the shoeboxes after the service. i did the same routine, made up a little laundry list of mostly harmless sins. of course i had plenty of real sins to confess by the time i hit say, 16-17, but by then i had it pretty much figured out i'd be going to hell in this dear old catholic version of the universe, so what's the point, why not have a little fun with it, and try to keep the hail marys to a minimum?

(fiction, 3:48-3:58pm. i confess to spellchecking.)

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Reply#16 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:02 PM EDT
{"commentId":634293,"authorDomain":"iamzach"}

actually, considering james frey's oprah confession, i suppose i could label this 'memoir' rather than 'fiction'.

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#16.1 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:18 PM EDT
{"commentId":634335,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}
but by then i had it pretty much figured out i'd be going to hell in this dear old catholic version of the universe, so what's the point, why not have a little fun with it, and try to keep the hail marys to a minimum?

You and me both, Zach. ;)

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#16.2 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":634653,"authorDomain":"sheep"}

i imagine the elaborately carved wooden grilles we talked through doubled as airholes so we wouldn't suffocate to death.

This painted a very vivid picture of a small and nervous mouse being placed in the cardboard carriers pet stores give you. Are they going home to be a pet? Or as a meal for a snake? Does the little boy in the confessional have any more control over his eternal reward than the mouse does?

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#16.3 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:07 PM EDT
{"commentId":634667,"authorDomain":"gase"}

eternal reward

for what?

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#16.4 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:12 PM EDT
{"commentId":635791,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

I'd slap your hand for spellchecking but I have to admire your possibly unintentional ironic use of a confession for your spellchecking in a piece and thread itself about confessing.

My favorite part is this:

confess by the time i hit say, 16-17, but by then i had it pretty much figured out i'd be going to hell in this dear old catholic version of the universe, so what's the point, why not have a little fun with it, and try to keep the hail marys to a minimum?

because it gets at something that Vikki and I were trying to articulate but with a twist. I think she and I (and you) made up sins for early confessions.

What we didn't touch on but you did with this excellent piece is the inverse to that action which is when you start dropping real sins from the litany

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#16.5 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:33 PM EDT
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{"commentId":634593,"authorDomain":"gase"}

You certainly hit a need with this topic, Sbutki.

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Reply#17 - Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:46 PM EDT
{"commentId":634813,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

Looks that way, doesn't it?

One other idea I have is a fiction game. One person would list 10 objects and each person would write a fictional story and have to incorporate all 10 things.

If three people here express interest in the idea I'll start it later in the week.

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#17.1 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:32 AM EDT
{"commentId":635065,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

That's a decent idea, Scott. But you should probably encourage people to post those stories as articles in their own columns, no? Links could be provided here, like in the LVS.

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#17.2 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:39 AM EDT
{"commentId":635089,"authorDomain":"aprilbd"}

Can we write things like poems & stories in our own columns? They don't only have to be news articles?

Also, what is LVS?

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#17.3 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:53 AM EDT
{"commentId":635110,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

Yes, we can! Just be sure to tag is as such, and some of us like to preface the title with "Fiction:" or "Poetry:" so that people can see the title and know right away what it is, and if they don't want to read that stuff, they don't have to waste their time. Be sure you click the "Writer's Corner" checkbox anytime you do post something of a fictional/creative nature!

LVS stands for Last Viner Standing. I've already dropped out, myself. It's more of an experiment than anything else, and there's a bit of a debate about whether or not something like it is good for the Vine, but it was good for me, as I posted four days in a row. I petered out when I got busy, and I didn't want to whip something up just for the sake of staying in the contest.

You can search the tag LVS0407 up top in the search box, and you'll find all the articles written for the contest.

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#17.4 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:07 AM EDT
{"commentId":635589,"authorDomain":"VictoriaRose"}

Miss Snark (the literary agent) did something similar to sbutki's idea for a contest a little while ago.

You must use ALL of these words (but you can use them any way you choose):

Reacher
Helicopter
snazzy
moonbeam
Dan Lazar
griffin

Miss Snark picks the winner. All decisions are final. NO whining, or complaining allowed. Rule enforcer: Grandmother Snark AND her hatpin.

For more information, see here.

I would recommend reading the entries - they were quite entertaining. Also, her blog is an absolute must read for any writers and anyone who enjoys snarkiness.

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#17.5 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:14 PM EDT
{"commentId":635618,"authorDomain":"raatkiraani"}

Victoria - you bring some good ideas to the table. How about doing two things:

  • seed your own article based on Miss Snark's and see how it flies?
  • seed a link to her blog. It sounds that the satirists amongst us will be happy to see some snarkiness hit the vines:-)
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    #17.6 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:23 PM EDT
    {"commentId":635777,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

    I sure did.

    Next week does someone else want to choose the topic?

    I can use a volunteer for that job.. and for the fiction job (below) too..

    Well, I can use a female volunteer for even more things than that but that's neither here nor there.
    Hey, it IS the confession thread and I am the evil twin this week.

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      #17.7 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:26 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":634968,"authorDomain":"raatkiraani"}

      Scott - You are on a high! I'll have ten of whatever you're on:-)

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      Reply#18 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 5:28 AM EDT
      {"commentId":635766,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Victoria, do you have a link to that prior event?

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      #18.1 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:23 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":635764,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      It's chocolate and green tea, Raat. My dirty (ok, clean) little secret.

      I'll set up something tomorrow, as my LVS entry, for the fiction game. Vikki is right - it should be separate pieces.

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      Reply#19 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:22 PM EDT
      {"commentId":635798,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Oh does anyone want to volunteer to assist with these writing challenges? I'd like to share the responsibility of coming up with the topics with others. That also would make it more of a spontaneous reaction on my part. I can set up the topic and the designated person can then come along and drop the topic on us.

      It'd also be great to get a volunteer - preferrably someone not participating - for the fiction contest.

      I could use volunteers for other tasks too, especially if you're female, but I'll save that thought for a, well, a confession.

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      Reply#20 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:35 PM EDT
      {"commentId":635916,"authorDomain":"vikibabbles"}

      I'll help! Let me know what you'd like me to do!

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      #20.1 - Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:20 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":648604,"authorDomain":"indelible"}

      My goodness you are all such amazing writers. I find it astounding that there are places in this world and on this Internet that harbor people going through these beautiful exercises. I applaud all of your efforts and willingness to share the vulnerable.

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      Reply#21 - Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:45 AM EDT
      {"commentId":649539,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

      Thanks a lot, Indelible. I hope you join us.
      I'm trying to remember to tag all of these fiction exercises with sbutki-fiction
      so that migtht help.

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      #21.1 - Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:23 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":943373,"authorDomain":"rafterman"}

      Confessions- in police work I have had the chance to try and get confessions out of many different types of people. Professionals, working class Joes, drunks, druggies, and everything in between. I remember a particular confession that was one of the easiest that I ever got. It was a hot and muggy night in Laurel, MD. I was trying to catch up on paperwork so it must have been a Sunday. I parked my cruiser in the parking lot of the roller rink, turned on my iPod, opened the laptop, took out my motes and started typing. There was some kind of rock music playing, probably Rollins Band since I was on a huge Rollins kick at that time. Combine that with the police radio and the radio scanner I had in the car and it made for a noisy space to work. I think I was on the second or third paragraph of a DUI report when I overheard on the scanner, a call for the fire department. It was the alarm at a thrift store that happened to be right across the street from where I was sitting. I didn't see anything, and got on the radio and said that the fire department could hold while I checked. I put my notes away and pulled out of the lot and was about to cross the street when a car sped out from behind the thrift store and onto the street with no headlights on. It saw me and the chase was on. I hit my emergency lights and siren and asked for help as I followed the car onto a side street and watched as three of the occupants jumped out and ran into the dark. A fourth gave up at the scene, so I handcuffed him and put him in my car. After a check of the area by the canine officer, I went back to my car, read the guy his rights and asked him only one question- "What happened?" This guy spilled the beans faster than anyone I had ever interviewed before or since. He sang like a bird for 20 solid minutes, giving up information on two of the other three. He claimed not to know the third, and I let that one go. It ended up with us finding the floor safe from the car in the trunk, and warrants for the others for burglary, theft and a few other charges.

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        Reply#22 - Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:12 PM EDT
        {"commentId":946049,"authorDomain":"sbutki"}

        psst, can you break that up into smaller paragraphs? It'd be much easier on my eyes. Thanks.

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