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Typos, Speed & Other Pubic (Heh) Issues

Mon Feb 19, 2007 4:28 PM EST
odd-news, media, ethics, mistakes, sbutki-memoir, oops, pubic, typos
By Scott (Scoop) Butki
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Mistakes happen. As a journalist for more than 15 years, I made my share of typos. Typos and other mistakes in journalism are important for several reasons:

What may seem to some like a small mistake, such as the misspelling of a person's name, can have huge, terrible consequences. The theory goes that every person who reads the person's name and knows it is misspelled will proceed to question everything else they read.

While television news does a terrible job of admitting mistakes — reason #2,888 that I prefer newspapers to television news programs — newspapers usually do a good job of acknowledging an error occurred and apologizing for it. Good newspapers run corrections in the same place each day, often page one for mistakes that occurred on the front page and page two for most other mistakes.

The catching of mistakes by readers, when added to mistakes admitted by reporters and staff, leads to credibility problems.

Since nobody is perfect, some mistakes are to be expected.

One of the difficult parts about being a journalist is that your mistakes are so public. When an accountant, for example, makes a mistake but it is later caught, the public is none the wiser. But if a reporter interviews a man named John Smith and assumes Smith is spelled the usual way then realizes it's actually spelled Smyth, the reporter is going to look like an idiot. Many reporters insist on getting business cards to confirm spelling and titles.

Complicating matters, readers assume the reporter is responsible for the wording — and spelling — of the headlines and photo captions when that is often not the case.

Let me give some personal examples:

One of the more common mistakes reporters make is leaving out the L in the word "public". Spell-check agrees that the mistake is a word and presto: We now have ourselves a pubic hearing. One of my more embarrassing mistakes was referring to a person as the "pubic works manager." Tough job, I am sure. Fortunately, he took it in stride.

Some mistakes are pure stupidity. I wrote obituaries at the first newspapers I worked for. One day I came to a Hispanic name I did not recognize. As the gender of the deceased was not stated I did something stupid, I guessed. Long story short, I guessed wrong and the family called howling the next day and I felt like crap. After that I always checked even if it meant interrupting families still grieving

Fast Typing

As do most reporters, I type fast. I got that speed through a unique strategy. I was a slow typist during college until I took a typing class. It quickly became clear that the typing teacher wanted fast typing rather than accurate typing. At the time I was listening to a lot of punk music, especially Bad Religion, Fugazi, Minor Threat, Seven Seconds, etc. So I put on my headphones and began typing while listening to punk music. As the keystrokes struggled to keep up with the fast beat, my typing speed increased. That first week my typing speed increased from about 35 words per minute to about 75 words per minute. The next week my speed improved to about 100 words per minute.

Other students were not oblivious to this change. They also began listening to music and typing faster. This continued for about one month until we reached a point where all of the students were listening to music while working. While we thought this was bloody brilliant, our teacher was increasingly frustrated as he realized he had lost control of his class.

He asked us to stop listening to the music while we typed. We negotiated an agreement - we could use the music for the tests, so our results would still be good, but the rest of the time we would listen to the teacher.

Twist of Fate

In a nice twist, now that I have left the journalism profession for an education career I am subbing in various classes as I work toward a degree to teach English in middle school. That means dealing with students who make typos that are hilarious. I have gotten good at suppressing a laugh when a student writes something unintentionally funny.

I had to laugh last week when subbing in an English class and students were asking to listen to music while they read and write. "You can't do that," I told them. But, the students said, we can work faster with music. I could almost hear myself saying the same words to my typing teacher.

But I told them no. Do as I say, not as I do.

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Scott (Scoop) Butki

c'mon, fess up. I can't be the only one who mad embarrassing typos.

What are some of your better ones?

  • 1 vote
Reply#1 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:43 AM EDT
Scott (Scoop) Butki

Ah, here's a good one - The New York Daily News not only made major mistakes but messed up
the correction too

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:03 PM EDT
lauhal

God article. ;)

  • 4 votes
Reply#3 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:29 PM EDT
The Incredulous One

the writing's quite goof, too.

  • 4 votes
#3.1 - Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:59 AM EDT
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Robie

Nice article i'll need to try out the fast music idea as my typing could do with a speed boost.

look..no typos.

  • 1 vote
Reply#4 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:39 PM EDT
Scott (Scoop) Butki

Nice job, Robie. (I sure hope your name wasn't supposed to be Robbie but bastardized by a terrible
typo)
Thanks, Lauhal.

I've figured out that it might behoove me to try to revive some articles I posted in my early days before
anyone had me as a friend.
And besides you can only make so many pubic jokes... or not.

  • 1 vote
Reply#5 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:41 PM EDT
Robie

Robie was actually a nickname my father had and it is short for Robertson.

  • 1 vote
#5.1 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:44 PM EDT
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Scott (Scoop) Butki

Whew!

  • 1 vote
Reply#6 - Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:59 PM EDT
The Incredulous One

Karaoke anyone?

"After singing the bill, Bush issued a statement indicating that he would reject the provision when he thought it encroached on his power to defend the "American people from further terrorist attacks." "

"Specter questioned whether the administration is using singing statements to avoid issuing a politically troublesome veto."

hey, I'd pay to see that!

Link here.

  • 2 votes
Reply#7 - Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:51 AM EDT
The Incredulous One

You'd definitely have to double check everything you read here.

http://www.typos.com.cy/

if you can understand it...all Greek to me.

  • 2 votes
Reply#8 - Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:03 AM EDT
Scott (Scoop) Butki

Come now, surely I'm not the only one who makes typos.

  • 2 votes
Reply#9 - Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:27 PM EDT
ShaunV

Complicating matters, readers assume the reporter is responsible for the wording — and spelling — of the headlines and photo captions when that is often not the case.

It is very frustrating when a copyeditor, or newsroom editor introduces errors into a writer's copy.

The headline writers, seemed to do this most often by sometimes writing an interesting but misleading headline. Sometimes the need to be brief causes the misleading wording.

Very few readers realize the reporter does not write the headline.

As for typos, and grammatical errors. Stuff happens.

There are studies showing that writers often don't see errors because they automatically correct them in their minds. That is why large papers have an editor, at least two copy editors, proofing the copy.

  • 2 votes
#9.1 - Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:28 AM EDT
Scott (Scoop) Butki

Very few readers realize the reporter does not write the headline.

The fact most readers don't know that is one of the biggest pet peeves of most journalists I know.

We (sorry, I slipped there) they get more calls about mistakes others made than those
they made.... most of the time

  • 2 votes
#9.2 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:29 AM EDT
Diabolical Things

Yeah ya aer.

  • 1 vote
#9.3 - Tue May 29, 2007 2:33 AM EDT
TV HagenahDeleted
TV Hagenah

Not a typo but not realizing what the name meant. Instead, I just thought of the name as the name of the town. I was doing sports and the town of Hooker, OK was going against another team in Oklahoma, Guymon in baseball. And my headline read "Hooker takes on Guymon nine." I made the back page of the Columbia Journalism Review with that one.

A headline I remember that has always entertained me was on a story about how junked cars left on the streets were an eyesore and needed to be repaired or towed away. The headline read, "Owners of junked cars will be fixed."

    #9.5 - Wed Sep 2, 2009 5:09 PM EDT
    Scott (Scoop) Butki

    my headline read "Hooker takes on Guymon nine." I made the back page of the Columbia Journalism Review with that one.

    love it!

    reminds me of one about deer ticks -
    something like "deer dicks are tiny"

    that ran as part of a headline

    we felt bad for the poor deer's female partners. how embarrassing!

      #9.6 - Wed Sep 2, 2009 5:30 PM EDT
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      Scott (Scoop) Butki

      There are studies showing that writers often don't see errors because they automatically correct them in their minds.

      This is very true. Even if you're not a journalist try reading something you wrote 10 or 15 times and odds are good that unless you read it from bottom to top or some other unorthodox way you'll mentally correct things you see.. .that actually are not there.

      • 2 votes
      Reply#10 - Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:52 PM EDT
      Hugo C. Gonzalez 76

      interesting had never heard this, it sheds some light on why there will always be amistake you don't pick up!

      • 1 vote
      #10.1 - Fri Apr 3, 2009 2:39 PM EDT
      Scott (Scoop) Butki

      Yup. Glad it was helpful.

        #10.2 - Fri Apr 3, 2009 9:27 PM EDT
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        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        I just proved this point last nite when posting something that had a few repeating paragraphs.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#11 - Mon Apr 23, 2007 4:31 PM EDT
        ShaunV

        ....even if you're not a journalist try reading something you wrote 10 or 15 times

        Yes. I liked the linked, article, too.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#12 - Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:14 AM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        Thanks, Shaun.

        • 2 votes
        #12.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:48 AM EDT
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        jpark

        I've never written for a newspaper, but I have sent letters to the editor several times. I stopped doing that long ago because the editor would edit the letter (with no permission or notation that it was edited) and invariably the comments I made would be changed to the point that they sounded retarded or meant the exact opposite of what I had written.

        Perhaps editors are nicer to the staff?

        • 2 votes
        Reply#13 - Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:07 PM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        Sounds like you just have a really bad editor at that newspaper.

        • 2 votes
        #13.1 - Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:22 PM EDT
        Division by Zero

        I've written several letters to the editor of my local paper but they have always called me prior to publication and sent me copies of the edited letters. I've never had a hatchet-job done that changed the meaning of my words.

        To me the funniest "typos" are the ones on the portable signs that businesses and churches use. I just have to wonder how someone could have put each letter up for the sign, stepped back to have a look, and still thought everything was correct. I also wonder how it is that people will patronize the business or attend the church and never bother to mention the mistake on the sign.

        • 4 votes
        #13.2 - Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:38 PM EDT
        jpark

        Perhaps I was dealing with the wrong newspapers. It should be noted that my letters were in opposition to the paper's opinion.

        I also tried satire once thinking to get the opinion published. It was edited to sarcasm by the editor.

        The internet is a wonderful invention if for no other reason but that it allows the free and unedited expression of ideas.

        • 2 votes
        #13.3 - Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:15 PM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        Jpark - On the internet we're all editors and we all have our own newspapers.
        So that's the good news - you can bypass that editor that couldn't tell sarcasm, from satire to.. whatever

        the bad news is you then have to find a way to get people to read you because there are a billion of us now with our own newspapers!

        • 2 votes
        #13.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:22 AM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        Division, have I shared with you my photos of signs with typos or funny phrases? I LOVE those.

        As for typos on signs I see them all the time.

        I saw a story just the otehr day about a street sign in my city that has been mispelled for 20 years - nobody reported it as wrong so nobody fixed it.

        I kicked myself for never noticing it - I drive by the sign - but sometimes you see
        what you want to see versus what's actually there.

        • 3 votes
        #13.5 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:24 AM EDT
        TV Hagenah

        A photographer I knew years ago for National Geographic used to collect those signs (well, photographs of them) and he would get the biggest kick out of finding them. He would practically fall to the ground when he found one. As I remember, he would send out New Year's cards of them the following New Year. We were wandering down an alley one time and he pointed to the backdoor of a bar that read, "No miners allowed". For the rest of the afternoon, we discussed professions that might be permitted in that bar.

        • 1 vote
        #13.6 - Wed Sep 2, 2009 4:53 PM EDT
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        indelible inc.

        I make typos pretty often, though not as often as others. Usually when I do I try and write a humorous quip that makes up for it. My rule is, if I notice and acknowledge the typo before anyone else does, I'm redeemed.

        It's worked out prity well.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#14 - Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:37 PM EDT
        indelible inc.

        "Pretty", I meant pretty of course. ;)

        • 3 votes
        #14.1 - Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:37 PM EDT
        indelible inc.

        I'm so original, I astonish myself. Really, I find it hard to accept that I'm the best sometimes. Ah well, everyone could do with a little more self-gratification.

        • 3 votes
        #14.2 - Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:39 PM EDT
        jpark

        It would be nice if newsvine allowed you to edit an comment.

        There are probably good reasons why they don't, however.

        • 4 votes
        #14.3 - Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:24 PM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        I'm a newbie here so this may be off the mark but from what I've seen in other online community (is that a fair label for this site?) editing is dangerous in that a person can change the entire content of their message after its posted thus making whoever responds to it look like a total idiot.

        The solution - the compromise I support - is to let you edit within a minute or two of posting. So you'd have to change it right away, probably because of a typo. But you wouldn't be able to go edit an hour later when you realized you "accidently" compared a group member to Hitler.

        • 4 votes
        #14.4 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:27 AM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        indelible, you crack me up.

        • 3 votes
        #14.5 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:42 AM EDT
        The Incredulous One

        But you wouldn't be able to go edit an hour later when you realized you "accidently" compared a group member to Hitler.

        But you would be able to go eat an hour later when you realized you "accidently" compared a group member to Bitler, your grade school science teacher.

        Sorry, that's what I meant to day.

        • 3 votes
        #14.6 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:23 AM EDT
        The Incredulous One

        I mean meant to say.

        • 3 votes
        #14.7 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:23 AM EDT
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        Dan Charles

        While working at a small town daily, I made the public/pubic error at least once a week, but my editor always caught the errors before we went to press.

        The only funny typo to slip through was in a photo caption of a construction crew pouring concrete for a nursing home driveway. We were short on time because I had to reshoot the workers (My first series of shots-from multiple angles no less- had the same guy in the center of the frame with some major butt crack going on, so none of the pics were usable). We were running so close to press, that my editor took a chance, and chose not review the image caption. So the construction crew from Fort Smith, Arkansas became the construction crew from Fart Smith, Arkansas.

        In hindsight, keeping the original photos and the typo would have been much funnier.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#15 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:04 AM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        I've been to Fort Smith and I seem to recall it smelling a bit now that you mention it.

        • 3 votes
        #15.1 - Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:14 PM EDT
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        Mick McNicholas

        Sometimes juxtaposition inadvertently causes hilarity too. Two headlines, on the same page 26 years ago, about unrelated stories, have kept me chuckling. The top story was a sidebar to the front-page story of the day: Pioneer X spacecraft had sent back to earth spectacular photos of the planet Saturn and was heading deeping into space. The other story was a feature story about how to go about looking for summer homes.

        The headlines:

        Uranus May Be The Next In Sight

        Looking For A Summer Place?
        Check Mercury First

        I often wonder if anybody ever did look into buying a summer home so close to the sun.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#16 - Sun Jun 3, 2007 1:35 AM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        Oh, yes, quite true about juxtapositions.

        I've noticed that for some odd reason churches don't like it when stories I write about them jump to a page with an ad for exotic dances.

        As if the church patrons will be reading the story and will see the ad and go, "Oh, to hell with church, let's go see us some titties."

        • 1 vote
        Reply#17 - Sun Jun 3, 2007 2:50 AM EDT
        Division by Zero

        I just remembered a funny headline from my hometown newspaper about 15 years ago. A local woman had been appointed to lead a charitable organization. I can only guess that there wasn't enough space so the headline writer had to shorten things up a bit. The headline read "Melanie Adams Giving Head" which immediately sent me to the floor laughing.

        • 2 votes
        Reply#18 - Mon Jun 4, 2007 9:36 AM EDT
        Scott (Scoop) Butki

        The headline read "Melanie Adams Giving Head" which immediately sent me to the floor laughing.

        Oh my god. That is too funny.
        Bet someone got fired for that one.

        That reminds me of the thumb story. I forget whether I've shared the story of God's thumb.

          #18.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2007 6:37 PM EDT
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          Mick McNicholas

          The governor of Illinois had had a busy day signing bills into law and vetoing a few too. So the headline writer thought to sum up the action with the banner headline "Governor's pen is busy" except that the white space between the "n" in "pen" and the "i" in "is" somehow got truncated. Hilarity ensued, and then so did the governor (but the suit was later dropped after an apology was made).

          • 3 votes
          Reply#19 - Mon Jun 4, 2007 11:58 AM EDT
          Scott (Scoop) Butki

          Wow. Thats' a keeper too. Again I bet someone got in big trouble, and the poor gov probably had to comfort his spouse too about what he and his penis had been up, so to speak, to.

            #19.1 - Mon Jun 4, 2007 6:38 PM EDT
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            Mick McNicholas

            Caught on the flat: (that means it had been through all the editors, and just little ol' me with my non-repro blue pen stopped it from going to press)

            "ALL-AMERICAN SEVEN-LAYER MEATLESS LASAGNE

            [an ingredients list followed, then the directions:]

            In a greased baking dish, take a layer of needles, cover it with the tomato sauce, adding another layer of needles and another layer of tomato sauce, another layer of needles and another layer of tomato sauce, then top it with mozzarella cheese and bake...."

            Nothing says loving like hot cheesy (and well-hidden) needles straight from the oven, eh?

            ***

            • 1 vote
            Reply#20 - Mon Jun 4, 2007 7:56 PM EDT
            Scott (Scoop) Butki

            Anyone make any funny typos lately?

            • 2 votes
            Reply#21 - Mon Oct 8, 2007 1:41 PM EDT
            ppope

            Scott, I tell you I laughed aloud about this! I'll forgo the confession! ; )

            Oops. Too late.

            • 1 vote
            #21.1 - Mon Oct 8, 2007 2:08 PM EDT
            Scott (Scoop) Butki

            I won't tell if you don't want me to.

            • 1 vote
            #21.2 - Tue Oct 9, 2007 10:36 AM EDT
            ppope

            SHHHH! : )

            • 1 vote
            #21.3 - Tue Oct 9, 2007 5:51 PM EDT
            Scott (Scoop) Butki

            oh, sorry

            • 1 vote
            #21.4 - Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:00 PM EDT
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            Dr Know

            I am the King of Typical Graphic Errors!!! (typos for short)

            • 1 vote
            Reply#22 - Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:28 PM EDT
            Scott (Scoop) Butki

            Prove it! Tell me some of your best ones please!

            Did you ever get the gender wrong in an obituary?

            Not that I ever did, of course.

              Reply#23 - Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:33 PM EDT
              Scott (Scoop) Butki

              The best typos of 2007 are listed here

                Reply#24 - Sun Jan 6, 2008 4:29 PM EST
                Scott (Scoop) ButkiDeleted
                Scott (Scoop) Butki

                My favorite new typo

                His top contenders are said to include Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Less traditional choices mentioned include former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, an abortion-rights supporter, and Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Democratic vice presidential prick in 2000 who now is an independent.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#26 - Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
                Kavatica

                HA HA HA HA Nice one Scott!

                • 2 votes
                #26.1 - Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:22 PM EDT
                Scott (Scoop) Butki

                thanks

                • 1 vote
                #26.2 - Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:31 AM EDT
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